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      Creepy as Hell
    Creepy as Hell        25 Nov 2016, 23:05 #241
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      Straight Jacket Time
    Straight Jacket Time        26 Nov 2016, 00:39 #242
     Six fires in Haifa erupted at the same time. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Creepy as Hell        27 Nov 2016, 01:10 #243
     This is pretty good.
     
     Lesson For Trump: David's Attempt To Make Israel Great Again
     
     Dan Cummins
     Posted with permission from WND
     
     In the nation's capital, "personnel is policy," and the success of Trump's presidency is being determined right now with his selections for Cabinet appointments. Once the president takes the oath of office on Jan. 20 and the political hostilities begin, that old proverb, "When you're up to your neck in alligators, it's easy to forget that the goal was to drain the swamp," explains why so many idealists who come to The Swamp abandon political principle for self-preservation.
     
     In the dog-eat-dog construction world, Trump knows you're only as good as your sub-contractors, and if he's to conquer the take-no-prisoner political world in Trump-like manner, he'll only be as successful as the character and steel of those Cabinet members he appoints.
     
     If President Trump is to blast through bureaucratic barriers and part the regulatory skies as he's done with his new Trump International Hotel – his five-star revitalization of the old Post Office, the most iconic symbol of the oldest of government institutions analogous of bureaucratic red tape – he must hire the most qualified subs.
     
     One can only hope for such a Renaissance repeat of his "ahead-of-schedule and under-budget" miracle at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue. Maybe his D.C. hotel billboard "Coming 2016 – TRUMP" was a prophetic handwriting on the wall or a sign of the times. "Even so, come, Donald Trump, come."
     
     David, the greatest king of Israel, experienced precisely what wrong cabinet appointments can produce at the beginning of an administration. He campaigned on the slogan "Make Israel Great Again" – and for David, and all of Israel, that meant restoring the Ark of Covenant, the repository of the Ten Commandments, back to its rightful place in government and the town square. You know, the Ark of the Covenant – the one Indiana Jones rescued from those evil Nazi socialists.
     
     King David had the task of restoring the Ten Commandments, Israel's Constitution, from 40 years of obscurity from the public arena, the result of the socialist redistribution policies of King Saul – the people's king. (By the way, while researching the Hebrew text for this column, I discovered King Saul's last name – "Alinsky.")
     
     But David's first attempt to restore their Constitution to the center of public life and governmental policy ended in a deadly and disastrous debacle at the threshing floor of Chidon as his oxen stumbled and his cart tumbled (1 Chronicles 13:9).
     
     If King David, a man after God's own heart, the ultimate political outsider, failed at his first attempt to restore all that had made Israel the most exceptional nation on earth – the first nation to allow its free citizens to own private property and practice free trade in a capitalistic economy – can we expect any more from Trump than Israel did of David? After all, David was not the "lesser-of-two-evils." Spiritually, he was "head-and-shoulders" above Saul.
     
     David's inaugural attempt to make the nation great again failed because of the advice he received from his cabinet appointees – which in this case were primarily the priests and elders (1 Chronicles 13:1-6). That's right: The preachers gave the king bad advice – advice they would not have given had they been "well versed" in the Scriptures, advice that publicly embarrassed the king and cost one man, Uzzah, his life. And in the end, it was the politician, King David, that put the preachers in their place, enabling the nation to find its restored glory.
     
     more
     http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/articl ... ews_id=827
     
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      Straight Jacket Time
    Straight Jacket Time        01 Dec 2016, 01:49 #244
     That was good analogies, Sadie.
     ======================
     
     This is not exactly prophecy, more like coincidence that isn't.
     
      "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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      Creepy as Hell
    Creepy as Hell        01 Dec 2016, 19:29 #245
     Where was that Bible found?
     
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      Straight Jacket Time
    Straight Jacket Time        01 Dec 2016, 20:51 #246
     I forgot the backstory. Shhesh
     
     
     They were cleaning up at the zoo after the Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge fire, and a park worker found that Bible, under a bench, opened to those verses "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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      Straight Jacket Time
    Straight Jacket Time        01 Dec 2016, 21:27 #247
     Here we go.
     
     
     
     
     A statue of Jesus was the only thing left standing after the wildfires swept through this house in Sevier County, Tennessee.
     
     The Jesus statue was the second religious item this week that survived the wildfires. Earlier this week Isaac McCord, an employee at the Dollywood theme park, says he found a partially burned page from the Bible's book of Joel. The part of the passage that's readable, from Joel's first chapter reads, "O LORD, to thee will I cry: for the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness, and the flame hath burned all the trees of the field."
     
     
     
     McCord immediately took a picture of what he'd found and posted it to Facebook, where it's been shared tens of thousands of times. Many commenters took it as a sign from God. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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      Straight Jacket Time
    Straight Jacket Time        02 Dec 2016, 15:30 #248
     
     
     
     remember the Cross in the ruins of the Trade Center buildings?
     
      storm's getting worse...
     we'll pass through it soon enough
     
     [size=50%]not by fire, but by ice? [/size]
     
     
      look at the sky five minutes every day and five minutes every night and it will change your life.? ?
     
     
     just sayin'
     
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      Straight Jacket Time
    Straight Jacket Time        04 Dec 2016, 19:48 #249
     Joel 1:19-20
     19 O LORD, to thee will I cry: for the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness, and the flame hath burned all the trees of the field.
     
     20 The beasts of the field cry also unto thee: for the rivers of waters are dried up, and the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness.
     KJV
     
     Amos 3:4-8
     4 Does a lion roar in the thicket
     when he has no prey?
     Does he growl in his den
     when he has caught nothing?
     5 Does a bird fall into a trap on the ground
     where no snare has been set?
     Does a trap spring up from the earth
     when there is nothing to catch?
     6 When a trumpet sounds in a city,
     do not the people tremble?
     When disaster comes to a city,
     has not the LORD caused it?
     
     7 Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing
     without revealing his plan
     to his servants the prophets.
     
     8 The lion has roared-
     who will not fear?
     The Sovereign LORD has spoken-
     who can but prophesy?
     
     What verses 4-5 mean is, Are all these signs I've sent meaningless? (I had to read a study bible to find that out.)
     
     
     NIV
     Amos 4:7-8
     7 "I also withheld rain from you
     when the harvest was still three months away.
     I sent rain on one town,
     but withheld it from another.
     One field had rain;
     another had none and dried up.
     8 People staggered from town to town for water
     but did not get enough to drink,
     yet you have not returned to me,"
     declares the LORD.
     NIV
     
     These verses make it plain the Lord is in charge of the weather, the Lord controls which town gets disaster or not, all that stuff.
     
     Now this here is the Bible Belt. These people here were not shy about calling the California drought and wildfires judgments from the Lord for their sinful lifestyle out there, but nary a word has been heard here about the firestorms here.
     
     Well maybe, just maybe, the Lord is displeased with all our empty churches, going to the mountains on the weekend, gambling at Cherokee, partying at Dollywood. Maybe the Lord is sick of empty praises on Sunday and cussing him out Monday through Saturday.
     
     I don't know the mind of the Lord. Just sayin'. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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      Creepy as Hell
    Creepy as Hell        04 Dec 2016, 20:28 #250
     Third Temple Displayed by Google Maps on the Temple Mount
     
     

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      Night Owl
    Night Owl        08 Dec 2016, 01:31 #251
     
    wrote:(By the way, while researching the Hebrew text for this column, I discovered King Saul's last name – "Alinsky.")
    I didn't know they had last names back then, I thought they went by where they were from. "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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    Creepy as Hell        08 Dec 2016, 17:19 #252
     
    Rogue of the celestial night,Dec 8 2016 wrote:
    wrote:(By the way, while researching the Hebrew text for this column, I discovered King Saul's last name – "Alinsky.")
    I didn't know they had last names back then, I thought they went by where they were from.
    I thought he was making a joke comparing that Saul
     with Saul Alinsky.
     
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    Night Owl        08 Dec 2016, 18:55 #253
     
    Sadie,Dec 8 2016 wrote:
    Rogue of the celestial night,Dec 8 2016 wrote:
    wrote:(By the way, while researching the Hebrew text for this column, I discovered King Saul's last name – "Alinsky.")
    I didn't know they had last names back then, I thought they went by where they were from.
    I thought he was making a joke comparing that Saul
     with Saul Alinsky.
    Ah, both Sauls were jerks, so makes sense. :thumb: "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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    Creepy as Hell        11 Dec 2016, 23:55 #254
     Did Rabbi's Vision Cause Russian Missile To Explode on Launchpad?
     By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz December 10, 2016 , 11:29 pm
     
     “Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be broken.” Psalms 37:15 (The Israel Bible™)
     
     
     
     S-300 failed launch (YouTube video capture)
     All of Israel was alarmed in August when Russia sent the advanced S-300 anti-aircraft weapons system to Iran, but there was no need to worry. Months ago, Rabbi Nir Ben Artzi had a Bible inspired vision in which he saw precisely what the fate of the missiles would be.
     
     In a lecture that he gave in September, Rabbi Nir Ben Artzi reassured his followers that the S-300 anti-aircraft weapons system Russia was sending to Iran would not be a threat to Israel, despite what military experts claimed.
     
     
     He cited Psalms as the source of his prescient knowledge.
     
     Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be broken. Psalms 37:15
     
     
     
     Rabbi Nir Ben Artzi (Photo: תאיר נרי בנשיאות הרב ניר בן ארצי שליטא” Official Facebook Page of Rabbi Nir Ben Artzi)
     
     The rabbi predicted, “These missiles, which can shoot down practically any plane, will get a virus in their computers, and go crazy.They will blow up inside their bunkers. The launcher will blow up underneath them.”
     
     Last week, a video went up on YouTube showing precisely what the rabbi had prophesied: a missile shot out of an S-300 launcher but its rocket failed to ignite. The missile dropped back onto its launcher, exploding inside the bunker.
     
     
     Read more athttps://www.breakingisraelnews.com/7992 ... Ldhxwcc.99
     
     
     
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    Night Owl        12 Dec 2016, 22:23 #255
     :lol: Russian technology is right up there with the Chinese. "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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    Creepy as Hell        18 Dec 2016, 15:01 #256
     The Vatican has become a Police State.
     
     SNIP>>>>>>>>>
     It is as though Catholic Rome has turned into a type of Church police state because of what is seen to be a great threat from the dubia letter to certain agendas.
     
     In a December 13 article on OnePeterFive, Vatican commentator Maike Hickson stated,
     
     “I have heard reports that the Vatican is like an occupied state. Certain sources I’ve spoken with have a fear that communications with Vatican officials are being monitored; some have even reported suspicious anomalies in their telephone conversations in which, after a dropped call, the audio of the last moments of their conversation has played over and over again on a loop, as though they are hearing a recording. Some individuals who work within the Vatican are advising their contacts on the outside not to share sensitive information via email or their Vatican-issued cell phones. [emphasis added]”
     Hickson goes on to quote respected Vatican correspondent Ed Pentin’s response to a question in an extensive interview in Reginamag.com titled, “Is there a reign of terror in the Vatican?” Pentin responded,
     
     “The Pope’s reaction, of going so far as to question the [four] cardinals’ mental state, has been read as a manifestation of his own anger at having his agenda taken off course. And instead of taking the four cardinals at their word (they have said they are acting primarily out of charity towards the Holy Father, justice and deep pastoral concern), they are seen as adversaries. I understand he has also been working behind the scenes to ensure his agenda is not thwarted. From strategically placed articles in L’Osservatore Romano to equivocations from those who publicly criticized the dubia when asked if the Pope had asked them to do so, Francis has been acting, as one observer put it, like a “behind-the-scenes political lobbyist.” In the three weeks after the dubia were published, the Pope gave three interviews to the world’s media, each of them aimed at legitimizing his position while denigrating his critics.
     
     Lastly, it’s important to point out that simply by matching facts with words coming from the Pope and his allies, it’s clear there is significant lying and deceit taking place, as well as calumnies and the besmirching of reputations of those labeled to be “on the right” just because they are publicly critical of Amoris Laetitia, or merely report on such criticism. It genuinely pains me to say all this, because as a Catholic journalist one doesn’t wish in any way to diminish the Petrine Office, but I feel I have an obligation to report the facts on what is happening. [my emphasis].”
     These are strong words from this always top-notch Vatican reporter who is normally soft-spoken and very mild-mannered.
     
     
     morehttps://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/clim ... uffer99f4a
     
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    Creepy as Hell        19 Dec 2016, 22:25 #257
     Kind of long but interesting video about a man
     who had a vision of Russian nuking the US.
     This is PT1. I don't think PT 2 is up yet.
     
     Oh, and around the 30 minute mark, there is a 2 minuted
     commercial
     
     
     
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      Straight Jacket Time
    Straight Jacket Time        20 Dec 2016, 18:27 #258
     This was on Drudge tonight 12/20/2016
     http://theweek.com/speedreads/668384/an ... -omen-2017
     
     Stranger Things
     
     An ancient vial of 'miracle' blood failed to liquefy, and that's a bad omen for 2017
     
     7:19 a.m. ET
     
     One of the most famous recurring miracles — even if one not quite sanctioned by the Catholic Church — is the liquefaction of the dried blood of San Gennaro, or St. Januarius, a bishop of Naples martyred around 305 A.D. and the city's patron saint. Starting in 1389, the vial of San Gennaro's blood typically turns liquid three times a year: on the Saturday before the first Sunday of May; on his saint's feast day, Sept. 19; and on Dec. 16, the day Mt. Vesuvius erupted in 1631. The blood liquefied on Sept. 19 this year, but not on Dec. 16. "In local lore, the failure of the blood to liquefy signals war, famine, disease, or other disaster," Catholic News Agency reports.
     
     The relic failed to liquefy in September 1939, when World War II broke out; during a cholera outbreak in Naples in 1973; and in 1980, the year of a deadly earthquake, Italy's La Stampa newspaper says. But Msgr. Vincenzo De Gregorio, the abbott of the Chapel of the Treasure of San Gennaro, took a philosophical view. "We must not think of disasters and calamities," he counseled, according to the ANSA news agency. "We are men of faith and we must pray." —Peter Weber
     
      "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Creepy as Hell        20 Dec 2016, 19:36 #259
     
    oldmanmike,Dec 20 2016 wrote: This was on Drudge tonight 12/20/2016
    http://theweek.com/speedreads/668384/an ... -omen-2017
     
     Stranger Things
     
     An ancient vial of 'miracle' blood failed to liquefy, and that's a bad omen for 2017
     
     7:19 a.m. ET
     
     One of the most famous recurring miracles — even if one not quite sanctioned by the Catholic Church — is the liquefaction of the dried blood of San Gennaro, or St. Januarius, a bishop of Naples martyred around 305 A.D. and the city's patron saint. Starting in 1389, the vial of San Gennaro's blood typically turns liquid three times a year: on the Saturday before the first Sunday of May; on his saint's feast day, Sept. 19; and on Dec. 16, the day Mt. Vesuvius erupted in 1631. The blood liquefied on Sept. 19 this year, but not on Dec. 16. "In local lore, the failure of the blood to liquefy signals war, famine, disease, or other disaster," Catholic News Agency reports.
     
     The relic failed to liquefy in September 1939, when World War II broke out; during a cholera outbreak in Naples in 1973; and in 1980, the year of a deadly earthquake, Italy's La Stampa newspaper says. But Msgr. Vincenzo De Gregorio, the abbott of the Chapel of the Treasure of San Gennaro, took a philosophical view. "We must not think of disasters and calamities," he counseled, according to the ANSA news agency. "We are men of faith and we must pray." —Peter Weber Yeah, pray that there isn't a catastrophe. :doh:
     
     That's what they call a bad omen I guess.
     I wonder how many more things will happen that
     they say foretell a bad omen before the New Year? :unsure:
     
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    Straight Jacket Time        20 Dec 2016, 22:54 #260
     That sort of stuff is not scriptural so take it with a grain of salt. I just thought it was interesting salt. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"

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    Creepy as Hell        21 Dec 2016, 14:33 #261
     I would be very interested to see what y'all think of this video.
     
     I don't think it has closed caption so I hope you can hear it, Mike.
     
     
     
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    Night Owl        21 Dec 2016, 15:37 #262
     So, is he giving a date for the rapture?
     
     As for Steve Quayle, he is turning into another Gordon Michael Scallion. "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
     A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song.    Quote     Like      Share                   TfromTexas         21 Dec 2016, 15:40 #263
     I agree with this guy. Too many things are adding up.
     The real kicker for me is that the majority of what I've read all believe it will be a celestial event.
     So, what else could it be?    Quote      Share                  Sadie   
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    Creepy as Hell        21 Dec 2016, 16:40 #264
     
    TfromTexas,Dec 21 2016 wrote: I agree with this guy. Too many things are adding up.
     The real kicker for me is that the majority of what I've read all believe it will be a celestial event.
     So, what else could it be?
    Well, it is an interesting theory if nothing else.
     
     
    wrote:So, is he giving a date for the rapture?
     
     As for Steve Quayle, he is turning into another Gordon Michael Scallion.
    That's what it sounded like to me.
     
     
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    Night Owl        23 Dec 2016, 15:03 #265
     Not Christmassy, but I thought they did a rather good job with the song, and a reminder of what is important, and why.
     
      "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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    Creepy as Hell        26 Dec 2016, 21:38 #266
     That was a great video, Rogue.
     
     
     
     
     
     10 TIMES THAT GOD HAS HIT AMERICA WITH A MAJOR DISASTER AFTER THE U.S. ATTEMPTED TO DIVIDE THE LAND OF ISRAEL
     Because Barack Obama has cursed Israel at the United Nations, America is now under a curse
     
     Michael Snyder | The American Dream - DECEMBER 26, 2016 1682 Comments
     10 Times That God Has Hit America With A Major Disaster After The U.S. Attempted To Divide The Land Of Israel
     
     Because Barack Obama has cursed Israel at the United Nations, America is now under a curse. Friday’s stunning betrayal of Israel at the UN Security Council is making headlines all over the planet, but the truth is that what Obama has just done is far more serious than most people would dare to imagine.
     
     Over the past several decades, whenever the U.S. government has taken a major step toward the division of the land of Israel it has resulted in a major disaster hitting the United States. This keeps happening over and over again, and yet our leaders never seem to learn. And despite the fact that President-elect Donald Trump, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and prominent members of both parties in Congress strongly urged Obama to veto Security Council resolution 2334, he went ahead and let it pass anyway.
     Because the United States has veto power on the UN Security Council, nothing can get passed without our support. And it has been the policy of the U.S. government for decades to veto all anti-Israel resolutions that come before the Security Council.
     
     But this time around, it appears that the Obama administration was working very hard behind the scenes to get this resolution pushed through the Security Council before the end of Obama’s term. At least that is what Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is claiming…
     
     “From the information that we have, we have no doubt that the Obama administration initiated it, stood behind it, coordinated on the wording and demanded that it be passed,” Netanyahu said in a statement. “This is, of course, in complete contradiction of the traditional American policy that was committed to not trying to dictate terms for a permanent agreement, like any issue related to them in the Security Council, and, of course, the explicit commitment of President Obama himself, in 2011, to refrain from such steps.”
     
     I am sure that there will be a tremendous amount of debate about to what extent the U.S. was involved in creating and drafting this resolution, but there is one thing that is exceedingly clear.
     
     The ultimate decision as to whether or not this resolution would be adopted was in the hands of one man. Barack Obama knew very well that he had this power, and in the end he ultimately decided to betray Israel.
     
     And now that our government has cursed Israel at the UN, our entire nation will be cursed as a result.
     In the Scriptures we are repeatedly told that God will bless those that bless Israel and will curse those that curse Israel. When Barack Obama blocked a similar resolution that France wanted to submit for a vote in September 2015, it resulted in America being blessed, and we definitely have been blessed over the past 16 months.
     
     But now that Barack Obama has reversed course and has betrayed Israel, we will most assuredly be cursed. In the days ahead we will see how this plays out, and perhaps we can get some hints about what may happen by reviewing recent history.
     
     There have literally been dozens of instances in recent decades when the U.S. has been hit by some sort of immediate disaster when it has made a move toward the dividing of the land of Israel. The following are ten of the most prominent examples that stand out to me
     
     …
     #1 The last time the U.S. government refused to veto an anti-Israel resolution at the UN Security Council was in 1979. On March 22nd, 1979 the Carter administration chose not to veto UN Resolution 446. Four days after that on March 26th, the Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty was signed in Washington. As a result of that treaty, Israel gave up a tremendous amount of territory. Two days later, on March 28th, the worst nuclear power plant disaster in U.S. history made headlines all over the globe. The following comes from Wikipedia…
     The Three Mile Island accident was a partial nuclear meltdown that occurred on March 28, 1979, in reactor number 2 of Three Mile Island Nuclear Generating Station (TMI-2) in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania, United States. It was the most significant accident in U.S. commercial nuclear power plant history.[2] The incident was rated a five on the seven-point International Nuclear Event Scale: Accident With Wider Consequences.[3][4]
     
     #2 On October 30th, 1991 President George H. W. Bush opened the Madrid Peace Conference which brought Israelis and Palestinians together to negotiate for the very first time. In his opening speech, Bush told Israel that “territorial compromise is essential for peace”. At the exact same time, “the Perfect Storm” was brewing in the north Atlantic. This legendary storm traveled 1000 miles the wrong direction and sent 35 foot waves slamming directly into President Bush’s home in Kennebunkport, Maine.
     
     #3 On August 23rd, 1992 the Madrid Peace Conference moved to Washington D.C., and the very next day Hurricane Andrew made landfall in Florida causing 30 billion dollars in damage. It was the worst natural disaster up to that time in U.S. history.
     
     #4 On January 16th, 1994 President Clinton met with President Assad of Syria to discuss the possibility of Israel giving up the Golan Heights. Within 24 hours, the devastating Northridge earthquake hit southern California. It was the second worst natural disaster up to that time in U.S. history.
     
     #5 On January 21st, 1998 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu arrived at the White House but received a very cold reception. In fact, President Clinton and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright actually refused to have lunch with him. That exact same day the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke, sending the Clinton presidency into a tailspin from which it would never recover.
     
     #6 On September 28th, 1998 Secretary of State Madeleine Albright was working on finalizing a plan which would have had Israel give up approximately 13 percent of Judea and Samaria. On that precise day, Hurricane George slammed into the Gulf Coast with wind gusts of up to 175 miles an hour.
     
     #7 On May 3rd, 1999 Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat was supposed to hold a press conference to declare the creation of a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as the capital. On that precise day, the most powerful tornadoes ever recorded in the U.S. ripped through Oklahoma and Kansas. At one point one of the tornadoes actually had a recorded wind speed of 316 miles an hour.
     
     #8 On April 30th, 2003, “the Road Map to Peace” that had been developed by the so-called “Quartet” was presented to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon by U.S. Ambassador Daniel Kurtzer. Over the next seven days, the U.S. was hit by a staggering 412 tornadoes. It was the largest tornado cluster ever recorded up to that time.
     
     #9 In 2005, President George W. Bush (the son of George H. W. Bush) convinced Israel that it was necessary to remove all of the Jewish settlers out of Gaza and turn it over entirely to the Palestinians. According to the New York Times, the very last of the settlers were evacuated on August 23, 2005. On that precise day, a storm that would be given the name “Katrina” started forming over the Bahamas. The city of New Orleans still has not fully recovered from the damage that storm caused, and it ranked as the costliest natural disaster in all of U.S. history up to that time.
     
     #10 On May 19th, 2011 Barack Obama told Israel that there must be a return to the pre-1967 borders. Three days later on May 22nd a half-mile wide EF-5 multiple-vortex tornado ripped through Joplin, Missouri. According to Wikipedia, it was “the costliest single tornado in U.S. history.”
     The UN Security Council resolution that was passed on Friday is the biggest betrayal of Israel in modern history. As I explained in my last article, I believe that America’s reprieve is now over and all hell is about to break loose in this country.
     When Barack Obama blocked the UN Security Council from dividing the land of Israel in September 2015, according to the Word of God we should have been blessed as a nation as a result, and we were blessed.
     But now Barack Obama has cursed Israel by stabbing them in the back at the United Nations, and according to the Word of God we should be cursed as a nation as a result.
     And as surely as I am writing this article, we will be cursed.
     http://www.infowars.com/10-times-that-g ... of-israel/

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      Creepy as Hell
    Creepy as Hell        04 Jan 2017, 16:56 #271
     I've always been interested in the Fatima story.
     Thanks for the link, Mike.
     
     
     
     This a very interesting article.
     
     Question....as Christians, we know Jesus was Messiah.
     Could this Moshiach that the Jews are waiting for (and some say will show
     up in 2017) instead be a man who vows to protect and stand up for Israel?
     Like, Trump??
     
     ___________________________________________
     
     
     The Spiritual Connection Between the Holocaust, 2017 and Gog and Magog
     
     By Dr. Rivkah Lambert Adler January 4, 2017 , 7:30 am
     “Son of man set thy face toward Gog of the land of Magog the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal and prophesy against him.” Ezekiel 38:2 (The Israel Bible™)
     
     
     (Photo: Breaking Israel News)
     Almost 100 years ago, a world-famous Polish rabbi named Rabbi Israel Meir Kagan made a prediction that could result in the War of Gog and Magog, and the revelation of Moshiach (messiah), in 2017.
     
     
     Rabbi Israel Meir Kagan, also known as the Chafetz Chaim. (Giants of Jewry, by Aharon Surasky)
     Rabbi Kagan, popularly known as the Chafetz Chaim, after the title of his most famous book, died in 1933. Before his death, he revealed that the War of Gog and Magog would be fought in three stages. The first stage was WWI, which began in 1914.
     
     The Chafetz Chaim predicted that the second stage of Gog and Magog would occur 25 years after WWI, and that it would be much more brutal than the first stage. True to his prediction, WWII began in 1939, exactly 25 years later.
     
     There is a final part of the Chafetz Chaim’s prediction. He said that the third part of the war of Gog and Magog would occur 72 years after the second stage, although it was not clear whether he meant 72 years after the beginning of WWII or 72 years after the end.
     
     Since WWII started in 1939, 72 years later was 2012. Obviously, the final war of Gog and Magog did not occur in 2012. However, WWII ended in 1945. That date, plus 72 years, brings us to 2017.
     
     In his new book Moshiach is Coming, Are you Ready?, Rabbi Alon Anava quotes several students of the Chafetz Chaim who heard him make these predictions.
     
     “And this war [WWII] will end with unbelieveable casualties,” predicted the Chafetz Chaim. Indeed, over 60 million people, combatants and civilians, were killed during WWII, including the six million Jews who were exterminated during the Holocaust. More people died during WWII than any previous military conflict in history.
     
     The Chafetz Chaim further predicted “But I see that after that, the Jews will count ten sabbatical years, which will be until the end of [2015]. At the end of 2015, there is going to be the last sabbatical year. Then we will reach [2016], when there will be an incredible amount of conflict in the world… lucky is anyone who survives this.”
     
     
     End of days expert Rabbi Pinchas Winston explained the connection between the final war of Gog and Magog and Moshiach to Breaking Israel News. “Moshiach is the cause of [the war]. He stands up for Jerusalem and they come after us because of it,” Rabbi Winston said.
     
     In other words, Moshiach’s defense of Jerusalem against the threats of other nations is the potential catalyst for the third stage of the War of Gog and Magog, which, according to the Chafetz Chaim’s prediction, is to be expected sometime in 2017.
     
     In light of recent events at the UN, where, for the first time, the United States abstained from a Security Council vote declaring Jewish presence in Judea and Samaria illegal, so many factors seem to be in place for a dramatic next chapter in the rapidly unfolding end of days scenario.
     https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/8145 ... UhC6tJW.99
     
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    Creepy as Hell        04 Jan 2017, 22:03 #272
     Arizona?
     
     
     
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    Creepy as Hell        05 Jan 2017, 00:54 #273
     I'm not sure I would call this a prophecy.
     But, it is a bit uncanny.
     
     
     
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    Straight Jacket Time        09 Jan 2017, 20:03 #274
     watch this = this guy is good - thbis week 1/9/17
     
     https://prophecywatchers.com/
     
     It's on the rapture - the pre-tribulation rapture of the Church. It's very good, the guy talks fast, but clearly for the most part, monotone, so I could follow him.
     He brought out a couple of arguments that I'd never heard before.
     
     1. The Tribulation is a 7 year period. Which 7 year Peariod? Daniel's 70 week prophecy, 69 have already passed, we're now in the gap - church age, awaiting the final 7 years of trouble.
     
     So Daniel was writing to the Jews about Israel in the end times, he wasn't writing about the Church. The tribulation concerns the Jews and the unsaved Gentiles. The Church has been already raptured.
     
     Because
     
     2. The church isn't appointed to wrath. When's the wrath? The tribulation. Whose wrath? Jesus' wrath. "Who can withstand the wrath of the Lamb (Jesus)?" (from Revelation).
     
     Now, the part I hadn't thought about or hadn't heard is there has to be unsaved people coming out the other side of the tribulation, a remant, someone has to re-populate the earth, somebody has to be there so (this is my opinion) Jesus can rule with an rod of iron, he wouldn't have to be that way if everyone were a believer. Also a natural man with a sin nature has to be there to rebel against Jesuis in the final war of Gog and Magog at the end of the millennium (Jesus 1000 yr reign).
     
     None of the other theories fit the Bible. A post trib rapture leaves no one on earth to fulfill scripture. Any other part of the trib - rapture splits up the 7 year block and you can't do that, he says, you just can't arbitrarily split up the 7 years and say God's wrath is going to occur here, so the rapture has to oocur there. no no. That won't fly. That's true. It won't.
     
     It's all good stuff.
     
      "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Straight Jacket Time        10 Jan 2017, 02:23 #275
     
    Sadie,Jan 4 2017 wrote: This a very interesting article.
     
     Question....as Christians, we know Jesus was Messiah.
     Could this Moshiach that the Jews are waiting for (and some say will show
     up in 2017) instead be a man who vows to protect and stand up for Israel?
     Like, Trump??
     
     ___________________________________________
    As Christians, we believe all prophecy has to line with scripture.
     
     In that article, nothing does. Just the names Gog/Magog.
     
     The messiah (or Moshiach) in the article comes back to "protect" Israel. Well, yes and no. In scripture, the Jews will be saved during the tribulation one by one. In Scripture, an earthquake kills 4 million Jews in Israel. In Scripture, Jesus comes back and sets his feet on Mt Zion? (I don't know where) and an east-west crevice appears........) "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Straight Jacket Time        10 Jan 2017, 02:23 #276
     
    Sadie,Jan 5 2017 wrote: I'm not sure I would call this a prophecy.
     But, it is a bit uncanny.
     
     
    I hate this. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Night Owl        12 Jan 2017, 04:39 #277
     Here is a pdf of the book mentioned in the video.
     
     Lord of the World "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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    Creepy as Hell        12 Jan 2017, 20:57 #278
     
    Rogue of the celestial night,Jan 12 2017 wrote: Here is a pdf of the book mentioned in the video.
     
    Lord of the World Thanks, Rogue.
     
     
     Regarding the same topic of the convention, this is a good
     article.
     It won't let me C&P
     http://thegoldenreport.net/a-biblical-s ... jerusalem/
     
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    Creepy as Hell        14 Jan 2017, 16:21 #279
     This is an interesting video.
     Begley gets a lot of flak from a lot of other
     sites and social media but I like him.
     I don't really follow him but I do watch his videos
     from time to time.
     Regardless if you like his style or not, you should listen
     to the information. If true (and I believe him) then this
     is disturbing. Not really a big surprise, but disturbing non the less.
     
     From the video info:
    wrote:A well known pastor is visited three times by govt employees. The particular branch of our govt is high up and shared in the video, however, that name is omitted from my text in the title and description to prevent any complications on YouTube with this video. What he describes would frighten the daylights out of most people, but he stood his ground. They provided him with a list of some of the names of alternative media personalities they are watching. They also informed him of nine ways they could get rid of him and/or send him a message that they aren't happy with what he is doing online. There is so much more! Please watch and share for the whole story.
    .
     
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    Creepy as Hell        16 Jan 2017, 22:23 #280
     Those that pray, pray that the inauguration goes
     well and no one gets hurt.
     
     
     
     Hundreds of Prayer Warriors Descend on Washington to Provide Prayer Shield for Donald Trump
     Hazel Torres 14 January 2017
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     Like angels from heaven, hundreds of "prayer warriors" have descended on Washington D.C. to undertake a crucial mission: protect U.S. President-elect Donald Trump by building a "prayer shield" around him ahead of his Jan. 20 inauguration.
     
     Among these prayer warriors are the members of a new group called POTUS Shield (as in President of the United States) who gathered inside the National Press Club on Thursday, CBN News reported.
     
     Pastor Eric Majette from Virginia Beach, Virginia said POTUS Shield is composed of pastors from all over America.
     
     "We're actually a prayer group. We pray for leaders across our nation — a group of pastors come together to pray for our nation and our leaders, particularly the new administration," he said.
     
     Speaking at the gathering, Alveda King, the niece of famed civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the director of Civil Rights for the Unborn, said they are counting on God to bring sweeping positive changes to America.
     
     
     "We're really not looking for Mr. Trump or any human to change America, but we know God can and will do it," she said.
     
     Pastor Leon Benjamin from Richmond, Virginia addressed the concerns aired by members of the African-American community who fear that the Trump administration will mean trouble for them.
     
     "We must believe for the best," Benjamin told CBN News. "It doesn't matter who is in the White House as long as there is faith that God has not forsaken us and that He has not left us because of a transition of power. That would be dreadful for us as pastors and leaders to say 'Oh my God, we're doomed now!' So we're very hopeful."
     
     Other prayer warriors descended on Capitol Hill to pray not only for Trump but also for Ben Carson, the former Republican presidential candidate and Trump's nominee as Housing and Urban Development Secretary, during his Senate hearing.
     
     Meanwhile, TIME reported that Trump has invited some of his former critics in the Christian community to take part in his inauguration. The weekly magazine found out that Rev. Sam Rodriguez Jr. is expected to stand on the inaugural platform together with Trump and proclaim Jesus' famous words from the Sermon on the Mount: "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
     
     He will be joined by Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York, who is expected to read aloud a passage from Solomon's prayer to God when he became king of Israel. "Even one who is perfect among human beings will be regarded as nothing without the wisdom that comes from you," the passage reads.
     
     Both Rodriguez and Dolan were known Trump critics during his campaign.
     http://www.christiantoday.com/article/h ... 103864.htm

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    Straight Jacket Time        17 Jan 2017, 01:46 #281
     I didn't see this one I posted it on FB "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Straight Jacket Time        17 Jan 2017, 02:15 #282
     
    Sadie,Jan 14 2017 wrote: This is an interesting video.
     Begley gets a lot of flak from a lot of other
     sites and social media but I like him.
     I don't really follow him but I do watch his videos
     from time to time.
     Regardless if you like his style or not, you should listen
     to the information. If true (and I believe him) then this
     is disturbing. Not really a big surprise, but disturbing non the less.
     
     From the video info:
    wrote:A well known pastor is visited three times by govt employees. The particular branch of our govt is high up and shared in the video, however, that name is omitted from my text in the title and description to prevent any complications on YouTube with this video. What he describes would frighten the daylights out of most people, but he stood his ground. They provided him with a list of some of the names of alternative media personalities they are watching. They also informed him of nine ways they could get rid of him and/or send him a message that they aren't happy with what he is doing online. There is so much more! Please watch and share for the whole story.
    .
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     The part where they listen to you in your own home via a light bulb, that's electronically possible, the filaments of the lightbulb vibrating with your voice, being transmitted into the electricity lines and they demodulate that. Yeah, that's possible. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Straight Jacket Time        17 Jan 2017, 02:33 #283
     As I was telling my wife about this video, and after I posted it on FB, the thought came to my mind that just as God led the Israelites through the Arabian Peninsula, so he will lead us when the time comes, he'll tell us what to do and when to do it, just like he told that pastor what was going on. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Night Owl        17 Jan 2017, 17:36 #284
     
    Sadie,Jan 4 2017 wrote: Arizona?
     
     
    This guy annoys me. A few years ago he was under a different channel name. He said he was only going to let those who pay watch his videos. That made me unsubscribe from him. He wasn't showing anything that a dozen other channels were showing. Now I see he's back with a new channel, but he's still annoying. He thinks everything he shows is unique, but it's really not, and I still can watch basically the same thing on a dozen other channels. "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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    Straight Jacket Time        17 Jan 2017, 23:36 #285
     
    Rogue of the celestial night,Jan 17 2017 wrote:
    Sadie,Jan 4 2017 wrote: Arizona?
     
     
    This guy annoys me. A few years ago he was under a different channel name. He said he was only going to let those who pay watch his videos. That made me unsubscribe from him. He wasn't showing anything that a dozen other channels were showing. Now I see he's back with a new channel, but he's still annoying. He thinks everything he shows is unique, but it's really not, and I still can watch basically the same thing on a dozen other channels.
    "I have the original posted on Facebopk" bwahahaha time to click off. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Creepy as Hell        18 Jan 2017, 13:02 #286
     The questio remains, what do y'all think of the picture it's self?
     
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    Night Owl        18 Jan 2017, 14:57 #287
     
    Sadie,Jan 18 2017 wrote: The questio remains, what do y'all think of the picture it's self?
    Since I don't trust the guy on the video, my first reaction would be photoshop. He could have made the photo, then he could have made the photos that show it isn't photoshopped.
     
     Besides, the picture is too grainy to make a good determination. It's like all those UFO it's grainy and out of focus. "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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    Straight Jacket Time        19 Jan 2017, 13:04 #288
     I thought it was photoshopped from the get go, when I saw it on Facebook. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Creepy as Hell        19 Jan 2017, 22:30 #289
     Mystic Rabbi’s Visions of Trump: Obama’s Betrayal Reversed, UN Will Fall, Europe Will Burn
     By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz January 12, 2017 , 12:30 pm
     
     “And it shall come to pass afterward that I will pour out My spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy your old men shall dream dreams your young men shall see visions.” Joel 3:1 (The Israel Bible™)
     
     
     (Breaking Israel News)
     On the eve of Donald Trump’s inauguration as the 45th president of the United States, Rabbi Nir Ben Artzi, a prominent mystic and spiritual leader, made several startling predictions this week concerning the impending transfer of power and the changes in store for America, Israel, and the world.
     
     “The media will discover that outgoing President Barack Obama is a traitor,” Rabbi Ben Artzi told Kikar HaShabbat, a Hebrew language news service for Orthodox Jews. “Obama, like an injured beast, helped Hillary Clinton whose sole intention was to continue his agenda.”
     
     
     Rabbi Nir Ben Artzi (Photo: תאיר נרי בנשיאות הרב ניר בן ארצי שליטא” Official Facebook Page of Rabbi Nir Ben Artzi)
     The spiritual leader, who has a dedicated following in Israel, said that while Obama will attempt to thwart Trump, it won’t work.
     
     “Before he leaves, Obama wants to destroy everyone and everything Trump loves, so that when Trump does take power, it will be difficult for him to cope with everything that Obama ruined,” Rabbi Ben Artzi predicted. “This is Obama’s revenge on Trump.”
     
     Indeed, Trump and Obama disagree on many major issues, and the incoming president has vowed to roll back several of the his predecessor’s policies, including the nuclear deal Obama brokered with Iran. In response, the White House announced this week that it had approved the sale of 130 tons of Russian uranium to Iran, enough to make ten nuclear bombs. This, along with several other last-minute moves by the outgoing president, may make it seem like Trump’s efforts will be futile, but Rabbi Ben Artzi said that Trump will have an ace card hard to beat.
     
     “When Trump takes office, he will receive help directly from Heaven that will enable him overcome these obstacles, and bring peace to the world,” Rabbi Ben Artzi declared. “And for this reason, Trump will succeed greatly.”
     
     The rabbi also addressed the recent UN resolution passed on December 23, the eve of the Jewish holiday of Hanukkah. Resolution 2334 declared it illegal for Jews to live in Judea, Samaria, the Golan, Hebron, and East Jerusalem. But while it has been US policy for over 30 years to veto anti-Israel resolutions in the UN, President Obama abstained from voting, thereby allowing the resolution to pass.
     
     Rabbi Ben Artzi believes that the timing of the resolution was divinely significant, mirroring the conditions of the Maccabees, whose oppression by the Greeks 2,000 years ago led to the miracle of Hanukkah and the restoration of the Temple.
     
     “God arranged it that the United Nations Security Council decision, advanced by Obama, would fall on the first candle of Hanukkah,” the rabbi explained. “This was in order for the Jews to receive it in the same spirit as the Jews thousands of years ago when evil decrees were placed on Israel.”
     
     Like many other modern political thinkers, the rabbi dismissed the UN as irrelevant. “Every decision the UN has made is meaningless. They will all be cancelled out and are already erased in Heaven. The resolution will fall, just as the United Nations itself will fall.”
     
     Rabbi Ben Artzi also addressed the international conference that will take place in Paris on Sunday, where it is expected that the 70 nations gathered will vote to create a Palestinian State in Judea and Samaria. Rabbi Ben Artzi predicted that the resolution would have disastrous repercussions for the countries that support it.
     
     “Every nation that tries to take away parts of Israel, the nation and the people will be destroyed,” he warned, citing Psalms.
     
     Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be broken. Psalms 37:15
     
     Rabbi Ben Artzi explained that the motivation behind the anti-Israel conference was for the European nations to curry favor with Islam, but this attempt was doomed.
     
     “Europe and all the other nations believe that if they hate Israel, all of the Muslims will become their allies and cease attacking them from within,” the rabbi explained. “They are wrong about that. Muslims will continue to fill up Europe by the millions. At this point, whether they help or hurt Israel, Europe will be ashes.
     
     “This is the last period of suffering for the Jews. From now on, it will only get better and better,” the rabbi assured his followers
     https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/8193 ... 6c5C7jx.99
     
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    Straight Jacket Time        20 Jan 2017, 00:43 #290
     Once upon a time, I checked this man out, he's an orthodox Jew who ignores the Bible's prophecies in John's Revelation, as evidenced by the last statement in the article. In Revelation, two thirds of the population of Israel will die in the tribulation.
     
     Up until that, I really liked what he had to say, wishful thinking on my part. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"

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      Creepy as Hell
    Creepy as Hell        23 Jan 2017, 22:44 #291
     You know, I had a thought earlier.
     
     This past election was so hateful and so chaotic and so
     exhausting to watch every day. Can you imagine what
     it is going to be like in 2020? It will be so much worse
     because I don't see elections ever going "back to normal"
     
     I don't know if I can take another one even worse than the
     one we just went through.
     
     Hopefully, the Lord will come back before then! :rapt:
     
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     Ms.Sadie,I find myself saying that more & more every day!
     
     PLEASE
     
     One has to wonder, at some point......
     
     how much longer can all this go on?
     
     exactly where is the boiling point?
     
     and how far are we from it???    Quote      Share                  Rogue of the celestial night   
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    Night Owl        26 Jan 2017, 03:03 #293
     It will come to a head whether Jesus comes back or not, it has too, there is too much division and no one wants to meet at the middle anymore. "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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      Creepy as Hell
    Creepy as Hell        28 Jan 2017, 17:37 #294
     Strange Phenomenon of Sharks Massing on Israel’s Coast Could Be Fulfillment of Ezekiel 38 [WATCH]
     By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz January 24, 2017 , 12:30 pm
     
     “And it shall come to pass that fishers shall stand by it from En-gedi even unto En-eglaim; there shall be a place for the spreading of nets; their fish shall be after their kinds as the fish of the Great Sea exceeding many.” Ezekiel 47:10 (The Israel Bible™)
     
     image:https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-c ... sharks.png
     
     
     Sharks are massing off the coast of Hadera in Israel. (Video screenshot)
     Dozens of sandbar and dusky sharks have appeared this week off the coast of the Israeli city of Hadera in a strange phenomenon that scientists are hard-pressed to explain – but the Bible may have an answer.
     
     It is thought that the large group of sharks, called a frenzy, are attracted to the warm water output of the electric power plant in Hadera, but in a trend that experts do not fully understand, sharks are gathering in this spot in ever-increasing numbers each winter.
     
     There many be another, simpler explanation: This could be the marine phenomenon described in Chapter 38 of Ezekiel that accompanies the war of Gog and Magog, ushering in Messiah.
     
     Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Yisrael; so that the fishes of the sea and the fowls of the heaven and the beasts of the field and all creeping things that creep upon the ground and all the men that are upon the face of the earth shall shake at My presence. Ezekiel 38:20
     
     The Tikunei Zohar (Tinyanya Tikkun 43), an esoteric book attributed to Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai in the first century, explains that this increase of fish signifies a specific stage of the Messianic process, in which the the Messiah from the House of Joseph and the Messiah of the house of David, two separate stages, join together.
     
     The Messiah from the house of Joseph is a practical building up of the land that precedes a miraculous period, Messiah from the House of David, which includes the building of the Temple. The period ushered in by the appearance of fish is described as a period of hamtakat hadinim (sweetening of the judgements), symbolized by the fish’s ability to make seawater palatable.
     
     
     
     Fish play a prominent role in End-of-Days prophecy. Based on a prophecy in Zechariah, it is believed that in the days of the Messiah, a river will flow from Jerusalem down in two directions: eastward towards the Dead Sea and westward towards the Mediterranean.
     
     And it shall come to pass in that day that living waters shall go out from Yerushalayim: half of them toward the eastern sea and half of them toward the western sea; in summer and in winter shall it be.” Zechariah 14:8
     
     In Ezekiel, it is stated that these Messianic waters will cause the Dead Sea to become teeming with fish.
     
     And it shall come to pass that every living creature wherewith it swarmeth whithersoever the rivers shall come shall live; and there shall be a very great multitude of fish. Ezekiel 47:9
     
     Last summer, Breaking Israel News reported on the appearance of marine life in brackish water ponds on the shores of the Dead Sea, in visible fulfillment of that prophecy.
     
     image:https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-c ... 00WIDE.jpg
     
     Scientists are on hand to study the sharks but still do not understand why they gather at Israel.
     
     Adi Barash, PhD student and researcher in the School of Marine Sciences at the University of Haifa Leon Charney, explained the situation to NRG, a Hebrew language news service.
     
     “The population of sharks worldwide has declined greatly, and this is especially true for most Mediterranean coastal sharks, which have disappeared altogether,” Barash said. “Such a phenomenon of warm water sharks gathering is unique, and there is no similar case of this happening anywhere in the world, but in recent years, we have seen this phenomenon repeating itself here every winter.”
     
     Hadera is the site of Israel’s largest electric power plant, and expels warm water into the Mediterranean.
     
     “We know they like being in the warm waters, but we don’t know exactly why,” Nature and Parks Authority marine ecologist Ruth Yahel told AFP news service.
     
     
     Read more athttps://www.breakingisraelnews.com/8256 ... fB2YDco.99
     
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      Creepy as Hell
    Creepy as Hell        03 Feb 2017, 23:27 #295
     Here is a prophecy link y'all might like
     
     http://www.messiahrevealed.org/index.html
     
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      Creepy as Hell
    Creepy as Hell        05 Feb 2017, 00:01 #296
     I don't think y'all know who Billie Brim is but she is a great
     bible teacher especially about prophecy. Anyway, I watched her on
     a show tonight and she told about a man she knows who was
     a Muslim and was converted by a vision he had from the Lord.
     She read different visions and words given to him about
     Trump as far back as 2015.
     
     Anyway, he said the Lord told him that people need to keep
     praying for Trump. And, he wanted us to pray from 1st Timothy 2:1-2
     
     I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
     
     2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
     
     King James Version (KJV)
     
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      Night Owl
    Night Owl        09 Feb 2017, 23:30 #297
     "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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      Creepy as Hell
    Creepy as Hell        13 Feb 2017, 22:10 #298
     I finally got around to watching this video.
     
     Good one! :thumb:
     
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      Night Owl
    Night Owl        14 Feb 2017, 23:58 #299
     There seems to be a reemergence of Nazis and Antarctica...makes me wonder just what is down there. "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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    Straight Jacket Time        16 Feb 2017, 16:54 #300
     I haven't had too much to say lately because I've been spending most the time I used to spend online on studying Daniel; "Why Lord, I been through it 10x over!" "Because my people don't understand Daniel." (Which meant I don't either lol)
     
     So I've read Daniel using 5 different Bibles, 2 different study Bibles (Schofield jumped the shark on Daniel, he said things that shouldn't have been said.)
     
     There's two big ones I've come across - this one first, has to do with Daniel chapter 7 - the 4 beasts and I got to the fourth beast, fine, gets destroyed, fine, we knew that but then comes verse 12
     "Dan 7:11-12
     12(The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a period of time.)
     
     WOW!! I never noticed that before, and none of the guys on TV ever tried to explain it. So I googled the verse and found this commentary which is very excellent I think - I don't care for the IHOP ministry one bit, but I'm not about to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
     
     This is good stuff.
     
     SAMUEL WHITEFIELD - IHOP
     
     "Daniel’s primary point is the sudden and complete destruction of the final beast. This beast is not judged like other empires. Something about the beast is so different that God’s answer to rise of this beast is to seat the heavenly court for judgment and put the Son of Man in place to judge the nations of the earth (Daniel 7:1-8). This apocalyptic judgment highlights just how personal the judgment of this beast is to God. He does not send an invading army that gradually conquers and dismantles the final beast; instead He personally, suddenly, and completely judges the final beast.
     
     This beast is completely unique in the way it challenges God, therefore it faces a unique judgment, and this is the emphasis of Daniel 7:11-12 and one of the main themes of the book of Daniel: there is a wicked ruler that is coming who is completely different (Daniel 7:3, 7, 19, 23, 24) from every other empire in history. He is so different that his reign of terror is not answered by another human empire, but by a direct judgment from God’s own Son and this is the emphasis of Daniel 7.
     
     All other empires in history will lose their power but then gradually fade away for a time as they are absorbed by another empire. Not so with this beast. God will judge him suddenly and decisively because he is different, both in his reign and his destruction, from all the rest. So different that God Himself will step on the stage of history and personally and suddenly destroy the final beast. He will not leave that task to the armies of men because this beast is something more than a man."
     
     ============
     
     The other, as I was making my modified Larkin timeline - those of you of a certain age will remember Larkin's turn of the century drawings as a staple of Protestant Sunday schools, I was doodling intersecting semi-circles, showing the rise and fall of the empires of Daniel 7 -1,2,3,4. with dates.
     
     And then I realized the Babylonian Empire only lasted about 70-75 years, from 610 or so to 539 (handwriting on the wall. - Mene mene tekel Upharsin)
     And I looked at the 1st verse
     
     "The wings were ripped out and the lion stood upright and was given the heart of a man." That's what the heart of a man means, a man's lifetime, and then Dan 7-1 becomes clear, it represents TWO empires, not just the Babylonian like every commentator in the world has said up to now, the Assyrian AND the Babylonian. The winged lion was the Assyrian god Shedu, and adopted by the Babylonians when they finally overthrew them. Wayha mentioned that a few years ago when we were batting around Irving Baxter and his wild-ass theories which are bogus. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"

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    Straight Jacket Time        16 Feb 2017, 17:19 #301
     I found out a lot of random things about Daniel and prophecy this time around.
     
     Jerome was a very smart man. When he was translating a mess of books into the Latin Vulgate, which was the Bible for a thousand years, he had in front of him:
     
     1. A copy of the Hebrew Bible, before the Masoretes added their vowel points.
     2. A copy of the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible generated by the Alexandrian Jews around 200 BC
     3. A copy of Theodotian's revision of the Septuagint, around 200 AD.
     4. The Gospels in Greek, plus all the Epistles and Revelation.
     5. He knew of a copy of Matthew's gospel in Hebrew, which was in the library in Caesaria, destroyed, of course. That's right, Matthew really did write his Gospel in Hebrew first. It's no rumor.
     6. Numerous, too numerous to mention, histories which he rattles off, by Greek and Roman historians forever lost, plus past of some which exist - Livy, Herodotus, Polybius, et al. Jerome said we must read these histories if we were to understand Daniel. Oh my gosh.
     
     Jerome's commentary on Daniel is online, written before he finished the Vulgate, which is how I bumped into it googling.
     
     I bring this up because, in the Catholic version of Daniel, there are the "aporcryphal" stories of the prayer of the 3 children (Daniel's 3 buddies who were thrown in to the furnace), Bel and the Dragon, and Susannah.
     These three stories were NOT present in the old Hebrew Bible, NOT present in the Septuagint, but added by Theodotian when he revised the Septuagint in the 2nd century. Jerome knew this because Origen's hexpla contained a side by side parallel translation of the Septuagint Daniel, and Theodotian's Daniel.
     
     Theodotian's Daniel was so popular that it replaced the old Septuagint Daniel so completely that only ONE copy of the Septuagint Daniel exists in the world.
     
     So Jerome had his choice, does he stick with the old, or translate Theodotian's Daniel. He justified the new by saying, "Why should we deprive the Western world of what the Greeks have been reading in their churches 200 years?"
     
     That is why the Catholic Bible has the long version of Daniel, and the Protestants have the short version (from the Masoretic revision of the Hebrew Bible).
     BTW, the Catholic Old Testament is a fifth century Hebrew copy before the Masoretes added vowel points. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Straight Jacket Time        16 Feb 2017, 17:36 #302
     All these different translations should not discourage anyone into thinking that we don't have what was passed down. The Dead Sea scrolls prove otherwise.
     
     What the Dead Sea scrolls proved is there was no such thing as an original Bible text. By the time of Jesus, there were at least 3 different versions of the Hebrew bible floating around plus the Septuagint, which is the scripture Jesus and the apostles quoted numerous times in the Gospels and Paul's epistles.
     
     Back in the day of the first Temple there was a master copy, but after Nebuchadnezzar got done leveling the place, scripture had to be regenerated.
     Jeremiah had to re-dictate Jeremiah 1-25, then added the oracles, after the king burned it page by page.
     
     David and Soloman would not have been able to read what Ezra dictated to the scribes, because they changed script from Old Hebrew to the square version, which was derived from the Aramaic (Syrian).
     
     People revise for the same reason we do. To make it readable. Hebrew fell out of disuse during the Hellenistic period, so the scribes translated into Greek. After 600 years of Greek, no one could read Greek anymore, so Jerome made a Latin translation. After 1000 years, the Reformationists translated an English version from Erasmus cleaned up version of the Vulgate. After 400 years of King James, people got tired of Old English, and now we have the NIV NLT and so on.
     
     Augustine (contemporary of Jerome) said, "The Holy Spirit is with the translators just as much as he was with the writers."
     
     I agree.
      "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Straight Jacket Time        16 Feb 2017, 17:54 #303
      "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Straight Jacket Time        16 Feb 2017, 17:56 #304
     The focus of the above diagram/sort of timeline is Nebuchadnezzar's dream. This is not as it should be, the focus of all biblical prophecy is Israel. What happens elsewhere is incidental.
     
     So the ribbon down from the top labeled the "Jews" was Larkin's method of tracing the Jews through the Exile, the various statue kingdoms that ruled overthem, the dispersion (diaspora) when the the Romans leveled Jerusalem in 70 AD (notice the Lord paid them back for destroying Pompei/Herculaneum in 71 AD.)
     Larkin's Jewish timeline concludes with the return of the Jews through the statue's feet of iron and clay, because the thinking was in those days was the 10 toes represented 10 tribes. Since Jesus is the boulder, we know Jesus isn't going to destroy God's wife, so that theory got put to rest.
     
     Then, I replaced is Revelation images with more modern ones., and concluded with Jesus 1000 year reign and a new heaven and new earth promised in Rev 21. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Straight Jacket Time        19 Feb 2017, 15:33 #305
     
     
     war is coming... I hear the distant drumbeats
     
     :pray: for Protection because they will come for Christians*
     
     
     
     
     *some already are...see my post in the New First Lady thread
     and see my thread at beast's forum
     
     
     
     :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: storm's getting worse...
     we'll pass through it soon enough
     
     [size=50%]not by fire, but by ice? [/size]
     
     
      look at the sky five minutes every day and five minutes every night and it will change your life.? ?
     
     
     just sayin'
     
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    Creepy as Hell        19 Feb 2017, 20:19 #306
     I agree Morgan. :pray:
     
     
     Wow, Mike, thanks for those very informative posts.
     
     Do you ever think sometimes that you missed your calling of being a Biblical Scholar?
     
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    Straight Jacket Time        19 Feb 2017, 21:48 #307
     
    Sadie,Feb 19 2017 wrote: I agree Morgan.
    :pray:
     
     
     Wow, Mike, thanks for those very informative posts.
     
     Do you ever think sometimes that you missed your calling of being a Biblical Scholar? Thank you for the kind words, Sadie, but all credit goes to the Lord for enlightenment, God is the source of all wisdom. I think I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing when I'm supposed to be doing it. I'm not any smarter than anyone else. That's what being born again means, accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior. He's the boss. I hope the diagram and explanations help, that's all.
     That being said, Sadie, you and UF and the moderators should be taking a bow for providing a vehicle for an interpretation of God's word. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Straight Jacket Time        20 Feb 2017, 01:24 #308
     >"Dan 7:11-12
     12(The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a period of time.)
     
     Back in my initial Daniel post, I made reference to this verse, which said the other beasts were allowed to live, after the fourth beast of Daniel 7 had been killed by fire. And the commentary said God reserved special punishment for the fourth beast.
     
     I did not realize the implications of that verse. The 4th 10-horned beast of Daniel is the same 10-toes that the boulder (Jesus) crushes in chapter 2, is the same 7 headed 10 horned beast referenced 3 times in Revelation.
     
     This means that beast is NOT Greece, is NOT the countries represented by Assyria or Babylonia, is NOT the countries represented by the 4 heads on the leopard in Dan 7, or the (eventual) 4 horns on the he-goat in Dan 8, which by Daniel 11:1-39 evolve into the 2 thighs on the statue in chapter 2 = the Seleucid or Ptolemaic empires, which comprise entire Middle East.
     
     Assuming the anti-Christ comes out of the 4th beast, all this says the one-world empire/antichrist will not be of Muslim origin. So ISIS will lose.
     
     Daniel 7 makes that plain, now that we analyze that verse. Can't happen.
     
     That means when God destroys Mystery Babylon in Revelation 18, it really is a mystery as to who Babylon is, because physical Babylon it isn't.............
     
     oh boy. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Creepy as Hell        20 Feb 2017, 20:43 #309
     I heard these 2 brothers (who also happen to be Catholic priests) on C2C
     a few weeks back. They have a big prophecy site and lots of youtubes.
     I did not hear all of it but they made a very reasonable case for
     Rome being Mystery Babylon. But, they kind of lost me by saying
     (if I heard correctly cause I was half way falling asleep) that John Paul II
     was the antichrist.
     Now, I can go along with the current Pope being the False Prophet but I do
     not think JPII was the antichrist. He couldn't have been because the
     AntiChrist is not currently on the world scene that we know of.
     Another guy also on C2C said that the AntiChrist was a member of the
     British Royal family. :rolleyes:
     
     The Fathers do have an interesting website
     http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/
     
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    Creepy as Hell        23 Feb 2017, 01:19 #310
     A prediction that was given about Trump.
     
     The Hermit of Loreto
     
     
     Article with more info about the story of
     the miracle regarding Mary's househttp://www.tfp.org/science-confirms-ang ... to-loreto/

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    Straight Jacket Time        23 Feb 2017, 17:22 #311
     
     
     
     Well... interesting... The Donald is the only POTUS I can remember that invokes The Lord
     
     :pray:
     
      storm's getting worse...
     we'll pass through it soon enough
     
     [size=50%]not by fire, but by ice? [/size]
     
     
      look at the sky five minutes every day and five minutes every night and it will change your life.? ?
     
     
     just sayin'
     
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    Creepy as Hell        23 Feb 2017, 21:50 #312
     
    Morgan Byler,Feb 23 2017 wrote: Well... interesting... The Donald is the only POTUS I can remember that invokes The Lord
     
    :pray: This is true, Morgan.
     
     I also do believe that God had a hand in this election.
     
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    Creepy as Hell        26 Feb 2017, 01:43 #313
     Saw this elsewhere.
     
     Just wondered what y'all think.
     
     
     
     THE JUBILEE YEARS: 17 AD AND 2017 AD
     "In the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar—when Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea, Herod tetrarch of Galilee, his brother Philip tetrarch of Iturea and Traconitis, and Lysanias tetrarch of Abilene— during the high-priesthood of Annas and Caiaphas, the word of God came to John son of Zechariah in the wilderness." [Luke 3:1,2]
     
     Once we understand that 1 AD marks the beginning of the reign of Tiberius Caesar and not the birth of Christ, the final pieces of the Time line puzzle fit perfectly. In 15 AD John the Baptist began his ministry as the forerunner of the Lord. This was the Year the Lord was baptized by John. Was tempted by the devil in the wilderness. And began His public Ministry. It was also in 15 AD that the Lord went to His home town, Nazareth, to proclaim the fulfillment of Isaiah 61:1, 2.
     
     "So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written: “The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor...to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord..." [Luke 4:16-19]
     
     The "acceptable year" the Lord came to proclaim was in 17 AD, which was a Jubilee Year! Notice the Lord didn't complete reading the verse which says "And the day of vengeance of our God." This is because when the Lord came the first time He came to save lives and not destroy them. He said so Himself to the Disciples when the they wanted to call down fire from heaven to destroy those who rejected Him.
     
     "And as they went, they entered a village of the Samaritans, to prepare for Him. But they did not receive Him, because His face was set for the journey to Jerusalem. And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?” But He turned and rebuked them, and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.” And they went to another village." [Luke 9:52-56]
     
     This Year, 2017, is also an acceptable year. A Jubilee Year. This Year the "Day of vengeance" part of Isaiah 61:2 is going to be fulfilled. This time the Lord is coming again, not only to save all those of us who love and obey Him, but to destroy all those who refuse to know Him out of hatred, and as a consequence continue to live in disobedience towards Him.
     
     "...it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints..."[2 Thess.1:6-8]
     
     In 17 AD in Month 1 Day 16, on First-fruits, the resurrection of many saints took place. "...the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the graves after His resurrection..." [Matt.27:52,53]
     
     Exactly 2,000 Years later in 2017 AD, this Year, in Month 1 Day 16, on First-fruits, I believe the resurrection of millions of saints is going to occur again! This time those of us who are alive are going to receive our glorified bodies and join them, as they ascend up into heaven. This didn't happen back in 17 AD because the Church Age had just begun. Now the Church Age, after 2,000 Years to the Day, is finally coming to an end! Be ready saints! We're finally going home!
     
     
     
     And, they added this later:
     
     
     The Lord Jesus Christ rose from the dead on First-fruits to become the resurrection of all the saints on First-fruits. This implies that the Rapture simply cannot occur on just any random Day in this Jubilee Year. "...now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the first-fruits of those who have fallen asleep [that is, have died]. For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. But each one in his own order: Christ the first-fruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. Then comes the end..." [1Cor.15:20-24] Christ is coming for us on First-fruit THEN the end of this Age will begin!
     
     Another thing that confirms we're going home on First-fruits is that we have in us the first-fruits of the Spirit. The first-fruits of the Spirit are all the good things we say and do by the Spirit of God Who dwells in us. Our encouraging, comforting and edifying words towards one another, as well as our kind deeds towards our families and the brethren originate from the Lord Jesus Christ, through His Spirit. These are the first-fruits that are storing up the glory of God in us to be revealed when our bodies are redeemed on First-fruits.
     
     "...I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. Not only that, but we also who have the first-fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body." [Rom.8:18-23]
     
     "To those who seek glory, honor and immortality by perseverance in doing good, he will pay back eternal life." [Rom.2:7]
     
     "...we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. [Gal.5:5] "So let us not grow weary of doing what is good; for if we don’t give up, we will in due time reap the harvest." [Gal.6:9]
     
     "...don’t forget doing good and sharing with others, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased." [Heb.13:16]
     
     "Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation."[John 5:28,29]
     
     "And this is my prayer: that your love may more and more overflow in fullness of knowledge and depth of discernment, so that you will be able to determine what is best and thus be pure and without blame for the Day of the Messiah, filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Yeshua the Messiah..." [Phili.1:9-11] The Day of the Messiah is on First-fruits, which is on the third Day [Day 16] of the Passover feast.
     
     "The Lord of hosts will make for all people A feast of choice pieces, A feast of wines on the lees, Of fat things full of marrow,Of well-refined wines on the lees." [Isa. 25:6] First-fruits is when the following verse, quoted by the Apostle Paul from the book of Isaiah, will finally be fulfilled. "So when...this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.” [Isa.25:8]
     
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     I don't believe anyone who sets dates. "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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     "Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation."[John 5:28,29]
     
     
     I always heard it was about repentance,forgiveness,salvation,redemption?
     
     Whatever became of all that?
     
     We have all sinned, every single one of us.
     
     Doesn't the Bible teach that we are of a sin nature?
     
     These type of things confuse me so much....and keep me from reading it all the way through.
     
     It is like its contradicting itself. :dunno: If the best government is that which governs least, then the ideal government is the one which doesn't exist.    Quote     Like      Share                  Sadie   
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    Creepy as Hell        02 Mar 2017, 14:40 #316
     I'm thinking that it means those who have done evil and
     have not repented and asked for salvation will be condemned.
     Those who have done good and are saved will have the resurrection
     of life.
     
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    Night Owl        02 Mar 2017, 18:29 #317
     This video repeats, but it's a good watch.
     
      "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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     "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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    Creepy as Hell        04 Mar 2017, 20:51 #319
     Borrowed from elsewhere:
     
     
     Anyone believe in miracles?
     
     “When Israel declared itself an independent state on May 14, 1948, still another miracle occurred. The armies of seven Arab nations marched on the newborn State, boasting that they would “push the Jews into the sea.” Outnumbered 100 to 1, Israel not only repelled the invaders but acquired more of Palestine than was granted in the UN partition plan.
     
     Yigael Yadin, Israel’s commander of operations in that war, had a terse explanation of Israel’s victory.
     
     “It was a miracle!”
     
     Five Examples of Miracles
     
     A Syrian column of 200 armored vehicles—including 45 tanks—attacked Degania, the oldest kibbutz in Israel. What a psychological blow this defeat would be! Without artillery, Jewish forces were helpless to block the Syrian advance. Until then the only heavy weapons available in all Israel were four howitzers of the type used by the French army in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870. Two of these ancient fieldpieces were promptly dismantled and rushed to Degania. The local commander, Lieutenant Colonel Moshe Dayan, had them reassembled at the very moment the first Syrian tanks rumbled through the kibbutz perimeter, and they scored a hit on the advance tank. Had the Syrians known that these two obsolete weapons represented half the arsenal of fieldguns in all Israel, they would have pressed the attack. Instead, the armored vehicles swung around in their tracks and clattered back up the mountain road.
     
     At Safed, near the Sea of Galilee a small unit of Israeli defenders were holding off thousand Arabs. A sudden tropical storm broke loose. The Israelis in desperation took their remaining gasoline, poured it over 50 empty drums, set them afire and rolled them down the hill. The flaming barrels flying down the slopes, the rumble of hollow barrels striking rocks—together with the tropical storm—created such an illusion that the bewildered Arabs imagining some sort of secret weapon took to their heel and fled. In December 1948, the Egyptians were harassing Israeli settlements in the Negev while advanced columns were moving north. Yadin used the Bible for strategy. It mentioned an ancient road forgotten for centuries, which ran almost directly to Mushrafa, the Egyptians’ central garrison. Heavy boulders were pushed aside with bulldozers. Soldiers in armored vehicles, jeeps and supply trucks sped under cover of darkness along the ancient road and surprised the Egyptians. Taking this garrison destroyed the Egyptian defense system and ended the war 14 days later.
     
     To liberate the airport at Lydda the tactics of Gideon were employed. Seven thousand Arab troops were ready to attack. Sixteen Israelis dressed as Arabs infiltrated into the city of Lydda. Like Gideon’s band of 300 they made such a commotion during the night that the Arabs, totally confused, fired upon each other. Finally the majority fled back across the border.
     
     The Syrian Army had regrouped east of the Galilee. A Jewish column of 24 homemade armored trucks and cars, on the way to relieve a besieged Kibbutz, took the wrong road and crossed the border into Lebanon. Before they discovered their mistake, they ran head-on into a column of supplies for the Syrian Army in Galilee—dozens of trucks of ammunition, a string of light artillery and 20 new armored cars. The Israelis fired point blank at the first truck—a tanker loaded with gasoline. It exploded and set on fire the following truckload of hand grenades. Rapid repeating explosions were heard for miles around. Terrified, the Syrians abandoned their cargo. The Israelis scarcely had enough men to drive the captured supply train back into Galilee. Finally they reached the beleaguered Kibbutz, only to learn that the Arab besiegers heard rumors that the Jewish army had invaded Lebanon, therefore, the Arabs fled Israel.
     
     The victory of the 1948 War was a big miracle composed of a series of little miracles.
     
     Why? Over 2500 years ago the prophet Isaiah made a remarkable prophecy concerning Israel regathered back in her land. “They that war against thee shall be as nothing and as a thing of nought…for I will help thee.” (Isa 41:12,13).
     
     The Miracle of the ‘67 War
     
     The Arabs boasted that they would destroy Israel. However, in six days Israel overran the combined forces of Syria, Jordan, Egypt and took the Golan Heights, East Jerusalem, the West Bank (Samaria and Judea), and the Sinai—one of the greatest military feats in history. To many Orthodox Jews worldwide, especially in the United States, it was a wake-up call from God. Thousands poured into Israel and settled in Samaria and Judea to stake Israel’s eternal claim to the so-called West Bank—the heartland of Israel. They are certain the Messianic Age is near at hand. As Biblical Zionists, they oppose any give-away of land in the peace process.”
     
     There are more miracles. See http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/contents/d ... racles.htm
     
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     "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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     [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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     [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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    Creepy as Hell        29 Mar 2017, 16:18 #323
     I watched the Paul Begley video.
     For some reason, I did not see it when you first
     posted it. I like his videos.
     
     I have viewed here and there on
     the other one because it is so long.
     Unless someone actually preaches something counter to scripture like
     Christ was not born of a virgin or that (like the Pope said)
     anyone who is good can get into heaven even if you do not believe.
     Or that Allah and the Christian God are the same, Or, if they are pretending
     to be healers just to make money, I usually hesitate to call them
     a heretic or false prophet. But, those are just a few examples.
     
     Speaking of Begley, here is one I just watched.
     
     
     
     
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    Creepy as Hell        08 Apr 2017, 20:19 #325
     Even though he can be very annoying, I really like this
     guy's videos. This was a good one. I really enjoyed it.
     
     For Ken Clement :candle:
     
     
     
     I found this info very interesting and surprising.
     
     
     For mysterious reason, Russia just became first country to recognize West Jerusalem as Israel’s capital
     by Menachem Rephun
     
     Russia’s Foreign Ministry issued a surprise statement Thursday acknowledging West Jerusalem as Israel’s capital [Photo by Golasso via Wikipedia Commons]
     Russia became the first country in the world Thursday to recognize West Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.
     
     “We reaffirm our commitment to the UN-approved principles for a Palestinian-Israeli settlement, which include the status of East Jerusalem as the capital of the future Palestinian state,” Moscow’s Foreign Ministry stated.
     
     “At the same time, we must state that in this context we view West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.”
     
     During his campaign, President Donald Trump repeatedly pledged to relocate the U.S. embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, though the move has yet to be implemented. The suggestion has been greeted with furor by much of the Arab world, with Palestinian Authority chief negotiator Saeb Erekat suggesting it would completely derail any hope for the peace process.
     
     It is not yet known what promoted Russia’s unexpected statement acknowledging West Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, though Israel Foreign Ministry spokesman Emmanuel Nahshon said Israel is “studying the matter.”
     
     Despite the acknowledgement, Russia’s Foreign Ministry said it is “deeply concerned about the situation in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Palestine and Israel have not held political negotiations for nearly three years, and the situation on the ground has been deteriorating.”
     
     The subject of Jerusalem (or part of it) as Israel’s capital was reportedly not mentioned during a phone conversation Thursday between Putin and Benjamin Netanyahu, though Syria’s chemical weapons attack and this week’s terror attack in St. Petersburg were discussed by the two leaders.
     https://jpupdates.com/2017/04/07/for-my ... s-capital/
     
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    Night Owl        09 Apr 2017, 04:46 #326
     Sounds like the pieces are really starting to fall into place. It's all getting too real, and it's coming fast, like a runaway train. "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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    Creepy as Hell        09 Apr 2017, 20:45 #327
     I have always heard that the AC will be 33 when he comes on the scene.
     The same age as Christ when he began his ministry. I don't know if that is
     Biblical or not.
     
     
     
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    Creepy as Hell        09 May 2017, 22:25 #331
     Afterlife: The TRUTH about "LIFE-after-DEATH" ~a SUPERNATURAL documentary on Heaven, Hell & Angels
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     Thoughts?
     
     
     IS 'GRAND ILLUSION' ABOUT GRAND CANYON ON VERGE OF BEING EXPOSED?
     Christian geologist sues feds for refusing research permit
     Published: 18 hours ago
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     A geologist is suing the National Park Service and its operations at Grand Canyon National Park because officials there refused him permission to do ordinary research due to his “Christian faith and scientific viewpoints informed by his Christian faith.”
     
     
     Andrew Snelling, who works with Answers in Genesis
     The case was brought by the Alliance Defending Freedom on behalf of Andrew Snelling, who works with Answers in Genesis.
     
     AIG said in a statement: “Apparently, Dr. Snelling’s most recent research project on behalf of a high-profile group (AiG) was deemed a threat to the prevailing viewpoint of the canyon’s formation and timing. The language used by park officials and its reviewers to describe Dr. Snelling’s proposal decry that a Christian and creationist seeks to do the research.”
     
     The group said Snelling’s proposed study “could yield results that will undermine an idea that is heavily promoted inside the park: namely, that the canyon’s strata were formed over millions of years.
     
     “With his intended research, Dr. Snelling seeks to gather samples at folds inside the canyon where all the layers were bent, but were not shattered because the rocks were still soft as they folded – supposedly remaining soft over a period of 450 million years.”
     
     Snelling said the case “is all about giving the freedom for a scientist to do good science without having to undergo a religious litmus test.”
     
     “The samples I have been blocked from collecting in the GCNP are to be subjected to routine lab processing and investigations any good scientist would perform,” he said. “The results are to be openly reported for all scientists to draw their own conclusions, whether or not they agree with my worldview interpretation of the history of the Earth.”
     
     What really happened at creation? Some of the world’s best experts have given their opinions, in “Creation Seminar,” “Eden to Evil,” “Scientific Creationism,” “The Lie” and more, all at the WND Superstore.
     
     ADF noted Snelling holds a Ph.D. in geology from the internationally acclaimed University of Sydney and has conducted geological research in Australia and the United States. He has published works in peer-reviewed journals and has substantial field and laboratory experience with both theoretical and practical geological research.
     
     “Nonetheless, National Park Service officials denied his routine request to obtain a few fist-sized rock samples from the Grand Canyon after learning of his Christian views about the Earth’s beginnings,” ADF said. “Despite the fact that Dr. Snelling had accomplished prior research in the canyon, Park officials ran him through a gamut of red tape for more than three years.”
     
     Grand-Canyon-NPS
     
     ADF Senior Counsel Gary McCaleb noted scientists will always look at data and challenge one another’s interpretations.
     
     “Such disagreement is how science works. But when the government starts refusing access to even collect the information because it dislikes one scientist’s views, it undercuts science and violates the law,” he said.
     
     ADF Allied Attorney Michael Kitchen said the case “perfectly illustrates why President Trump had to order executive agencies to affirm religious freedom, because park officials specifically targeted Dr. Snelling’s religious faith as the reason to stop his research.”
     
     “The government isn’t allowed to discriminate against someone based on their viewpoint, and National Park officials have absolutely no legal justification in stopping a scientist from conducting research simply because they don’t agree with his views,” he said. “Using someone’s views to screen them for a government benefit is unconstitutional.”
     
     Scientists who conduct research in the park must explain their objectives and obtain a permit.
     
     However, in Snelling’s case, the lawsuit explains, permit coordinator Ronda Newton insisted on two peer reviews of his plans.
     
     He provided three, all recommending his work.
     
     But then Newton went to additional lengths and asked for the opinion of a professor from the University of New Mexico, Karl Karlstrom, who demonstrated “antipathy for Dr. Snelling’s religious faith and the religious views of the scientists who provided peer reviews on behalf of Dr. Snelling.”
     
     Newton sought another opinion from Peter Huntoon of the University of Wyoming, who worked with Karlstrom on various projects.
     
     He condemned Snelling’s plan, arguing “ours is a secular society as per our constitution (sic)” and suggested “inappropriate interests” should be “screened out.”
     
     The park wanted to require Snelling first to travel through the canyon and obtain GPS coordinates of locations he wanted to research before obtaining a permit.
     
     “The actual reason behind the rejection was because of Dr. Snelling’s Christian faith and scientific viewpoints informed by his Christian faith,” the lawsuit charges.
     
     Defendants are Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, National Park Director Michael Reynolds, Regional Director Sue Masica and park Supt. Christine S. Lehnertz.
     
     Snelling said: “We expect debate about what the evidence means, but the Park shouldn’t prevent us from collecting data just like other scientists. I am merely asking for equal treatment by the government.”
     
     He had proposed collecting about 40 small samples from inside the canyon. But after throwing up multiple obstacles, the park eventually quit responding to Snelling and then refused to respond to a question from Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., on behalf of Snelling.
     
     In its statement, AIG pointed to President Trump’s executive order May 4 affirming the executive branch’s intent to “vigorously enforce federal law’s robust protections for religious freedom.”
     
     “The primary defendant in the Snelling lawsuit is the Department of the Interior, which manages America’s national parks,” AIG said. “The DOI falls under the purview of President Trump’s executive branch of government.”
     
     Ken Ham, president of AiG, explained his scientist is “just asking for equal access to the canyon and not be stonewalled.”
     
     more
     http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/is-grand-ill ... g-exposed/
     
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    Straight Jacket Time        22 May 2017, 00:15 #333
     Velikovski, a Russian Jew, said the Grand Canyon was formed at about the time of Exodus, partially when Lake Bonneville drained. That's about 4000 years ago.. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Straight Jacket Time        22 May 2017, 00:23 #334
     
    Sadie,Apr 9 2017 wrote: I have always heard that the AC will be 33 when he comes on the scene.
     The same age as Christ when he began his ministry. I don't know if that is
     Biblical or not.
     
     
    AC=33 is not Biblical. The AC shows his face halfway through the trib.
     
     One prophecy that has to be fulfilled before the Day of the Wrath of God is, Elijah MUST come back 1st, probably one of the unnamed witnesses during the tribulation. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Creepy as Hell        08 Jun 2017, 21:31 #335
     
     
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     “Streaked, Speckled, Spotted”, First Jacob’s Lambs in 2,000 Years Born in Native Land
     By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz June 8, 2017 , 12:30 pm
     
     
     “I will pass through all thy flock to-day, removing from thence every speckled and spotted one, and every dark one among the sheep, and the spotted and speckled among the goats; and of such shall be my hire.” Genesis 30:32
     
     After a journey as dramatic as anything in the Bible, the first Jacob’s Sheep born in the land of Israel in over two millennia made their auspicious appearance last month in the Jordan Valley. One Torah Codes expert found an amazingly precise and detailed description of the flock’s arrival and the role it will play in bringing the Third Temple.
     
     The precious flock of 119 Jacob’s Sheep, a rare breed experts believe originated in Israel, finally returned in November after a journey of 2,000 years. Experts believe the unique breed, originally raised by Jacob, accompanied the Hebrews into slavery in Egypt and spread from there to North Africa. The Moors traded them to Spain, and then to England. Collectors have since brought them to North America. Considered a ‘heritage’ breed, meaning the sheep retain many of their genetic traits, they thrive in desert climes and have four horns.
     
     Despite the nearly non-stop travel that brought them from Western Canada to central Israel, the 30 pregnant ewes were as hardy as their Biblical ancestors, birthing healthy lambs in the Jordan Valley’s Sde Trumot, as their ancestors did in the time of the Biblical patriarchs.
     
     Gil and Jenna Lewinsky, who battled intense bureaucracy to bring the flock to Israel from Canada, see the return of the sheep as an integral part of the return of the Jewish People to the Holy Land. Their name comes from their striking speckled appearance, conforming to the description of the flocks that Jacob took with him when he left the house of his father-in-law, Laban.
     
     And the flocks conceived at the sight of the rods, and the flocks brought forth streaked, speckled, and spotted. Genesis 30:39
     
     Gil emphasized the importance of sheep to the people of Israel, explaining to Breaking Israel News that after the plague of darkness, Moses refused Pharaoh’s offer to leave Egypt since it did not include the sheep.
     
     “The Jews need the sheep to serve God in the Third Temple,” Gil explained. “Their wool is used in making the clothes for the kohanim (men of the priestly caste), and they are the breed that was offered up as a sacrifice in the First and Second Temples.”
     
     MORE
     Read more athttps://www.breakingisraelnews.com/8931 ... jFOSYW3.99
     
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     Military Intelligence Analyst Identifies ISIS as Ancient Nemesis Amalek
     By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz April 27, 2017 , 12:30 pm
     
     “Wherefore then didst thou not hearken to the voice of Hashem, but didst fly upon the spoil, and didst that which was evil in the sight of Hashem?’” I Samuel 15:19 (The Israel Bible™)
     
     image:https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-c ... -ref-2.jpg
     
     
     Moses holding up his arms during the Battle of Rephidim, assisted by Hur and Aaron, in John Everett Millais’ Victory O Lord! (1871). (Wikimedia Commons)
     The violent, ongoing conflict between Egypt and the Islamic State currently raging in the Sinai is a reenactment of the Biblical confrontation between Israel and Amalek, even taking place on the same battlefield, pointed out a military analyst who has turned to the Bible to make sense of current events.
     
     Exodus tells of the legendary battle between Amalek, the ancestral enemy of the Jewish people, and the Israelites, which took place in a place called Rephidim, located in the Egyptian desert.
     
     Then came Amalek, and fought with Israel in Rephidim. Exodus 17:8
     
     Two thousand years later, a new battle against Israel’s enemies is being staged in exactly the same place: an Egyptian airfield in Bir Gafgafa, which is located precisely on the Biblical site of Rephidim in the Sinai Peninsula.
     
     image:https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-c ... -sinai.png
     
     
     ISIS militants in the Sinai Peninsula. (Screenshot)
     The connection was made, surprisingly, by Debka Files, an Israeli military intelligence website. Giora Shamis, the editor of the website, immediately saw the Biblical context as the framework for understanding a situation that pits ISIS-affiliated fighters against Egypt, considered an ally of Israel in this conflict.
     
     “I am not religious, but the correlation between ISIS and Amalek is clear and should be taken into account when considering modern events,” Shamis told Breaking Israel News. “What happened thousands of years ago is simply being played out again, a continuation of what already happened there historically.”
     
     Shamis, who is secular, sees the Bible as a source that has a great deal to contribute in understanding the modern political forum.
     
     “The stories in the Bible not only have a religious side, but they also have a political aspect we would do well to learn from,” Shamis said.
     
     Shai Ben Tekoa, another journalist who views current events from a Biblical perspective, also sees Amalek as an archetype for ISIS, explaining in detail how ISIS can trace its military and ideological heritage from the Biblical nemesis.
     
     image:https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-c ... 00WIDE.jpg
     
     “ISIS in particular and Islamic terrorism in general are clearly incarnations of Amalek,” said Tekoa, former head broadcaster for Arutz Sheva, to Breaking Israel News. “Like Amalek, they seek out gratuitous cruelty.”
     
     Ben Tekoa noted the tactical similarities in Israel’s Biblical confrontation with Amalek and how it translates to modern problems with Islamic terror.
     
     image:https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-c ... 3x1024.png
     
     
     Map of the Sinai Peninsula and Israel. (Wikimedia Commons)
     “Amalek’s main tactic was to avoid head-on confrontation,” Ben Tekoa explained. “They were sneaky, coming up from the rear to attack the weakest in society, just like ISIS and Islamic terrorists today.
     
     “Our problem is not with Islamic armies. Islamists are congenital ambush artists, inheriting this from their Biblical forefathers.”
     
     Ben Tekoa feels that the Biblical perspective is the most accurate lens for perceiving the regional politics and other journalists would do well to follow suit.
     
     “The Bible is true, and its timeless brilliance is the best source for understanding the world today,” Ben Tekoa said. He related how, after learning about religion and Islam at Columbia University, he turned to the Bible for more insight. “I learned more about the Arabs and Islam from the few sentences in the Bible concerning Ishmael than from all the academic sources I studied.”
     
     It appears that the political analysts are just now catching on to what religious experts have known all along. Rabbi Matityahu Glazerson, an expert in Bible codes, posted a video in 2015 in which he noted that the word ‘Amalek’ is composed of two words: ‘Am’ (nation) and ‘Malek’ (behead), hinting at ISIS’s signature brutality.
     
     Rabbi Glazerson went on to show the gematria (numerology) of Amalek equals 240. Every nation has a ruling angel, and Amalek’s angel is the evil Samael. The gematria of Samael equals 136. Rabbi Glazerson then combined the two names and arrived at a total of 376, which equals the numerology of Daesh, the Arabic acronym for ISIS.
     
     MORE
     Read more athttps://www.breakingisraelnews.com/8724 ... OQvShwe.99
     
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    Straight Jacket Time        18 Jun 2017, 23:56 #338
     Amalek, as I gather, was "hated" by God for his/their sexual perversions.
     
     As far as the "father" of ISIS, Daesh had nothing on the Assyrians. The Assyrians were the first and worst of systematic terror and torture. Yeah they were worse than Daesh.
     ========
     
      "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Straight Jacket Time        18 Jun 2017, 23:57 #339
     This article on Drudge is incredible. Revelations says 4 angels are in charge of the weather.
     http://www.thedailybeast.com/this-secre ... -the-devil "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Creepy as Hell        19 Jun 2017, 22:54 #340
     
    oldmanmike,Jun 18 2017 wrote: This article on Drudge is incredible. Revelations says 4 angels are in charge of the weather.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/this-secre ... -the-devil I bet those are some of the ones Father Martin talked about on C2C
     as there being Satan worshipers in the Vatican? He died not too long
     after this interview with Art. IMO, his death was suspicious.
     
     
     
     
     
     I just learned that there is a documentary on Fr Martin on Netflix.
     It sounds interesting. I think I will check it out.
     http://www.thechristianreview.com/netfl ... hi-martin/
     
     

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    Creepy as Hell        06 Jul 2017, 22:29 #341
     Sign of the times or business as usual?
     
     According to Fr Malachi Martin, this was going on back when he was on
     c2c in the 90's and before.
     
     
     VATICAN POLICE RAID DRUG-FUELLED GAY ORGY AT CARDINAL’S APARTMENT
     Published: July 5, 2017
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     Vatican police have raided a cardinal’s apartment where a drug-fuelled homosexual orgy was taking place.
     
     Police entered an apartment at the former palace of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (or Holy Office) last month not far from the Vatican City.
     
     The occupant of the apartment is alleged to be a priest who serves as a secretary to cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio, the head of the Pontifical Council for Legislative texts and a personal adviser to the Pope.
     http://www.blacklistednews.com/Vatican_ ... 8/Y/M.html
     
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     Update
     http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-vatica ... s-backyard
     
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    Creepy as Hell        09 Jul 2017, 21:44 #343
     
     
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    Creepy as Hell        23 Jul 2017, 15:19 #344
     Attack at Israel embassy in Jordan's capital Amman
     15 minutes ago
     
     Security forces stand guard outside the Israeli embassy in the residential Rabiyeh neighbourhood of the Jordanian capital Amman following an "incident" on July 23,
     Security forces have closed roads in the area
     An attack has taken place at the Israeli embassy in the Jordanian capital, Amman, with casualties reported.
     
     A BBC reporter at the scene says the immediate vicinity has been locked down but authorities have not released details.
     Media reports citing security sources say one Jordanian was killed and one Israeli seriously injured.
     
     Israeli authorities are believed to be evacuating embassy staff.
     The heavily protected embassy is located in the Rabiyeh neighbourhood, an affluent part of Amman.
     
     On Friday, thousands of Jordanians protested in Amman against Israel over the installation of metal detectors at a site sacred to both Muslims and Jews in Jerusalem.
     Jordan is the custodian of Muslim religious sites in the city.
     Israeli authorities are not commenting on the incident and have imposed reporting restrictions.
     http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40700467
     
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     [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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    Night Owl        04 Aug 2017, 01:46 #346
     [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
     A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song.    Quote     Like      Share                  Sadie   
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    Creepy as Hell        04 Aug 2017, 21:20 #347
     Amazing!
     
     Thanks for posting this.
     
     Now, if they can just convince the Jewish elders that this
     was the place, then the rebuilding can begin and we are that
     much closer to Jesus coming back.
     
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    Night Owl        06 Aug 2017, 04:15 #348
     
    Sadie,Aug 4 2017 wrote: Amazing!
     
     Thanks for posting this.
     
     Now, if they can just convince the Jewish elders that this
     was the place, then the rebuilding can begin and we are that
     much closer to Jesus coming back.
    There are a lot of scholars that disagree with his findings on where the temple sat, but they still have not found where Solomon's temple stood. At least there is a temple where this man says the temple stood, and it has the areas where animals were sacrificed and oil made. The problem with this is, tradition is getting in the way of good archaeology, and too many people have too much invested in what they believe and where they believe the temple stood, so it will be an uphill battle for anything to be believed, even if they can show proof that the temple was built in the City of David. "If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him"--Sun Tzu
     
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    Straight Jacket Time        10 Aug 2017, 10:10 #349
     
    Rogue of the celestial night,Aug 4 2017 wrote:
    [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] Good one Rogue - I was surprised when I learned that the Wailing Wall was a Roman fort because I read the Bible and Josephus. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"

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    Straight Jacket Time        10 Aug 2017, 10:24 #351
     
     
     Backstory. My wife told me about this video and the eclipse and I wasn't going to pay it no never mind, but I watched it. This is the greatest prophecy sermon I ever heard. This guy is great. He doesn't scream and holler like Hagee and Stone. He's not stretching things to make it fit. It's all logical. I never realized the connection between solar eclipses and prophecy. He's an oriental guy teaching the way the Jews look at number to preach prophecy. Very low key.
     
     There is one quote in there - "History = Prophecy". It's true. If you want to know what's going to happen, read about what has happened.
     
     If you don't care one hoot about religious prophecy, spin it down to the 40 minute mark where he embarks on the best argument for Trump against the NWO you ever heard.
     
     He starts with Genesis 1:14 and the number 4 and the number 400. By the way he uses what the Jews call "gematria" what we call numerology sort of, but numerology is not an end in itself.
     
     
     Gen 1:14
     14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years........"
     NIV
     This happened on the 4th Day. Number 4
     Day 4 is for signs.
     The Hebrew word for sign = tav = 400 numerical equvalent
     The sun is 400 times larger than the moon. The sun is 400 times further away from the earth than the sun.
     
     So God intended for the sun, moon, and stars to be used, among other things, to give mankind signs
     
     He spent a long time preaching Jonah in a fashion I heard once from my preacher Ricky, with this added spin:
     
     Matt 16:3-4
     4 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a miraculous sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah." Jesus then left them and went away.
     NIV

     
     I never looked at it the way he preached it, the evil will only get one sign, the sign of Jonah. But if you are a believer, then you will get many signs. The evil get one!
     
     So what was the sign of Jonah? Everyone thinks, 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the whale. But there's much more than that.
     
     Well, Jonas said he died and went to the gates of hell and was resurrected back to life and spit out on the beach. So Jonah was Resurrected! Jonah being a symbol of Christ's resurrection is only part of the sign.
     
     This is the only time in the Bible where a prophet hated the people he was prophecying to , he didn't want to be there, you know the story. So he half-hearted tells them to repent and essentially a revival breaks out, and God didn't destroy Nineveh (then, he waited a hundred and fifty years)
     
     Anyway, now comes ancient history. It turns out a couple of months before Jonah got there, there was a total solar eclipse of June 15, 763 BC over Nineveh- they know this because it was inscribed in so many tablets all over the Middle East, it was well known in Jesus time, they taught this to the kids in the schools. Around the same time there was an earthquake and a plague. So the people were ready to hear Jonah.
     
     Remember what happened when Jesus was crucified? The sky got dark from 12 to 3, and when he died at 3PM there was an earthquake. (But, this time there was no solar eclipse, but somehow God darkened the sun, and caused a quake. Secular history records this event). So that was the sign for Jesus' generation to repent. They didn't, and Jerusalem was leveled in 70 AD which began the Jewish Diaspora.
     
     Fast forward to June 28 1914. A solar eclipse crossed eastern Europe. Aug 1914 Archduke Ferdinand was assassinated in Sarajevo and WW1 started.
     
     June 8, 1918 -- Solar eclipse crossed the United States. Spanish Flu - a pandemic that killed 600K here and 50-100M worldwide. Not good.
     
     Now you're getting the picture. Wait till you see the picture of all the geological hot zones of the US and the path of the eclipse.
     He works in my favorite chapter, Isaiah 18. I love it.
     
     So he's suggesting this solar eclipse of August 21, 2017 is a sign for America, that we are going to undergo a military reversal like Nineveh, we will have an earthquake like Nineveh, we will have a "plague and pestilence" like Nineveh.
     
     Great video.
     (In a future posted video, he expressed the opinion that during the Crucifixion, God darkened the sun for 3 hours from 12PM to 3PM using what the tinfoilers call Planet X or Niburu. Man after my own heart.)
     
      "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Creepy as Hell        10 Aug 2017, 20:14 #352
     
     
     I'm going to watch the video now.
     
     Mike, did you know that there will be another eclipse visible
     from the US in 2020? I don't know if it is total or not and won't
     cover as much of the US BUT, if you look at the map of the upcoming
     eclipse and the one in 2024. the place that the coverage
     crosses is over the New Madrid area. I thought that was
     interesting.
     
     PS, I have seen vids of this pastor before. he is good.
     IIRC, his church is in Australia.
     
     PS What do you think about what the signs in the heavens
     that is happening on Sept 23rd regarding Revelation 12?
     Oh, nevermind, he covers it in the video.
     He also covers what I was saying above about New Madrid.
     (I'm half way through the video)
     
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    Hard to believe        10 Aug 2017, 21:05 #353
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    Straight Jacket Time        11 Aug 2017, 00:19 #354
     
    Sadie,Aug 10 2017 wrote:

     
     I'm going to watch the video now.
     
    wrote:Mike, did you know that there will be another eclipse visible
     from the US in 2020?
    2024. no I didn't know. 7 years later.
     
    wrote: I don't know if it is total or not and won't
     cover as much of the US BUT, if you look at the map of the upcoming
     eclipse and the one in 2024. the  place that the coverage
     crosses is over the New Madrid area. I thought that was
     interesting.
    I was shocked.
     
     PS, I have seen vids of this pastor before. he is good.
     IIRC, his church is in Australia.
     
    wrote:PS What do you think about what the signs in the heavens
     that is happening on Sept 23rd regarding Revelation 12?
    I was kinda frazzled by then. I have to re-watch the video.
     
    wrote: Oh, nevermind, he covers it in the video.
     He also covers what I was saying above about New Madrid.
     (I'm half way through the video)
    This preacher is the best I ever heard on you tube. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Creepy as Hell        11 Aug 2017, 02:06 #355
     That was a really good video
     
     I was wrong above, I said 2020 but meant 2024
     as to the other eclipse.
     
     
     I was also wrong I thought he was also going to talk
     about Sept 23 but he did not.
     He has made a separate video all about it though.
     
     
     
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    Could be lost        11 Aug 2017, 13:57 #356
     
    oldmanmike,Aug 10 2017 wrote:

     
     Backstory. My wife told me about this video and the eclipse and I wasn't going to pay it no never mind, but I watched it. This is the greatest prophecy sermon I ever heard. This guy is great. He doesn't scream and holler like Hagee and Stone. He's not stretching things to make it fit. It's all logical. I never realized the connection between solar eclipses and prophecy. He's an oriental guy teaching the way the Jews look at number to preach prophecy. Very low key.
     
     There is one quote in there - "History = Prophecy". It's true. If you want to know what's going to happen, read about what has happened.
     
     If you don't care one hoot about religious prophecy, spin it down to the 40 minute mark where he embarks on the best argument for Trump against the NWO you ever heard.
     
     He starts with Genesis 1:14 and the number 4 and the number 400. By the way he uses what the Jews call "gematria" what we call numerology sort of, but numerology is not an end in itsel.
     
     here's the U-tube version. My wife loved this video
     Gen 1:14
     14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years........"
     NIV
     This happened on the 4th Day. Number 4
     Day 4 is for signs.
     The Hebrew word for sign = tav = 400 numerical equvalent
     The sun is 400 times larger than the moon. The sun is 400 times further away from the earth than the sun.
     
     So God intended for the sun, moon, and stars to be used, among other things, to give mankind signs
     
     He spent a long time preaching Jonah in a fashion I heard once from my preacher Ricky, with this added spin:
     
     
     He spent a long time on Jonah.
     
     Matt 16:3-4
     4 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a miraculous sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah." Jesus then left them and went away.
     NIV

     
     I never looked at it the way he preached it, the evil will only get one sign, the sign of Jonah. (But if you are a believer, then you will get many signs. The evil get one!)
     
     So what was the sign of Jonah? Everyone thinks, 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the whale.
     
     Well, Jonas said he died and went to the gates of hell and was resurrected back to life and spit out on the beach. So Jonah was Resurrected! So the Resurrection is the only sign the evil generation will get (and understand).
     
     So here Jonah, this is the only time in the Bible where a prophet hated the people he was prophecying to , he didn't want to be there, you know the story. So he half-hearted tells them to repent and essentially a revival breaks out, and God didn't destroy Nineveh (then, he waited a hundred years)
     
     Anyway, now comes ancient history. It turns out a couple of months before Jonah got there, there was a total solar eclipse of June 15, 763 BC over Nineveh- they know this because it was inscribed in so many tablets all over the Middle East, it was well known in Jesus time, they taught this to the kids in the schools. Around the same time there was an earthquake and a plague. So the people were ready to hear Jonah.
     
     Remember what happened when Jesus was crucified? The sky got dark from 12 to 3, and when he died at 3PM there was an earthquake. (But, this time there was no solar eclipse, but somehow God darkened the sun, and caused a quake. Secular history records this event). So that was the sign for Jesus' generation to repent. They didn't, and Jerusalem was leveled in 70 AD which began the Jewish Diaspora.
     
     Fast forward to June 28 1914. A solar eclipse crossed eastern Europe. Aug 1914 Archduke Ferdinand was assassinated in Sarajevo and WW1 started.
     
     June 8, 1918 -- Solar eclipse crossed the United States. Spanish Flu - a pandemic that killed 600K here and 50-100M worldwide. Not good.
     
     So now you're getting the picture. Wait till you see the picture of all the geological hot zones of the US and the path of the eclipse.
     He works in my favorite chapter, Isaiah 18. I love it.
     
     So he's suggesting this solar eclipse of August 21, 2017 is a sign for America, that we are going to undergo a military reversal like Nineveh, we will have an earthquake like Nineveh, we will have a "plague and pestilence" like Nineveh.
     
     Great video. I have to agree Mike, this is one of the most informative I've ever seen. I love the way he educates with simplicity how the NWO is trying to control the world. I had never understood the deal about all the debt until now. Thank you for putting this video on here. If the best government is that which governs least, then the ideal government is the one which doesn't exist.    Quote     Like      Share                  oldmanmike   
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    Straight Jacket Time        12 Aug 2017, 00:07 #357
     Thank you, T. I appreciate it. I don't get much time to post or reply these days. I heavily edited the typos and left-overs and run-ons out of the first part . I wrote that in a big hurry. Sadie I have to watch that sept 23rd video. "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Straight Jacket Time        12 Aug 2017, 00:52 #358
     
    Sadie,Aug 11 2017 wrote: That was a really good video
     
     I was wrong above, I said 2020 but meant 2024
     as to the other eclipse.
     
     
     I was also wrong I thought he was also going to talk
     about Sept 23 but he did not.
     He has made a separate video all about it though.
     
     
    Whoa!
     Sept 23rd, If I heard that right, is when the Woman in REV 12, signified by the constellation Virgo, gives birth to the King - Jupiter exits Virgo.
     
     He said this constellation configuration has only happened once before - during the time of adam and eve.
     
     Jeremiah 30:6-7 says this is the start of the tribulation. Jacob;s trouble, and Jacob was troubled for 22 years, not 7. 22 is Israel's number he says.
     
     Isaiah 21:2-3 predicts that at this time (elam and media) will attack Iran. (I've read that over and over Isaiah 21 - I kinda thought of it as Isaiah's apocalypse)
     anyway elam and media is nowadays iran, I knew that - but I never once thought that the woman in labor would be a constellation.
     
     This man is a true prophet. Everything he tells you comes out of the Bible.
     
     (He expressed the opinion that during the Crucifixion, God darkened the sun for 3 hours from 12PM to 3PM using what the tinfoilers call Planet X or Niburu.) Man after my own heart.)
     
     Wow! "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Straight Jacket Time        12 Aug 2017, 12:11 #359
     Here is a list of strange signs preceding the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD by Titus, and why the Jews paid no attention.
     =======
     List of strange signs preceding the Roman destruction of Jerusalem 70 AD
     
     Jesus preaching to his disciples:
     "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. Let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. For these are the days of vengeance, that all things that are written may be fulfilled." Luke 21:20"
     
     But was Luke in circulation before 70AD? Most commentators say no.
     
     The Jews didn't pay attention because they prayed for deliverance when Cestius surrounded the city with 50, 000 troops in September 66 AD to quell the Jewish rebellion at that time.
     
     From a blog:
     
     "When most of Judah was assembled in Jerusalem for one of their annual national feasts, the Feast of Tabernacles, a Roman General named Cestius surrounded the city. It looked like the Christians had missed their chance to heed Jesus's warning to flee. And inside, some prayed for deliverance by God, and others counselled surrendering to the Romans. But, certain news made it appear wise to Cestius to relocate to another area for a while, and as he left, the Jews supposed that God had given them their sign, and they sallied out to overtake Cestius and attack him. This they did with great success, killing a great many Romans and capturing even the storied 'standard' born by that legion. This would later cause them to be courageous in the belief that they should not surrender to the Romans when their city was again encircled."
     
     From Wikipedia:
     
     "Cestius Gallus succeeded in conquering Beit She'arim in the Lower Galilee, seat of the Great Sanhedrin (Jewish supreme religious court) in later times. With his force reduced by detachments sent to occupy Galilee and the Judean coast, Gallus turned inland to subdue Jerusalem. After suffering losses amongst his baggage train and rearguard, Gallus reached Mount Scopus and penetrated the outer city, but was apparently unable to take The Temple Mount.[1] After a siege of nine days, Gallus decided (for reasons which remain obscure) to fall back to the coast. His decision appears to have been based on the loss of siege equipment by ambush and the threatened cutting of his supply lines as the October rains began.[2]
     
     During Gallus's withdrawal his column was ambushed near Beth Horon, suffering very heavy losses. He only succeeded in making good his escape to Antipatris with the loss of about 6,000 men and a large amount of war material.[1] Judea was now almost entirely lost to Roman control.
     
     From the blog:
     But in the meantime, with the Romans withdrawn and their countrymen the Jews mostly gone out after them, the Christians fled out of the city. They did not join the battle, nor were they attacked as traitors for the simple reason that all the Jews were preoccupied, and few were left in the countryside because of the Feast of Tabernacles in Jerusalem, and because most country people had fled to the protection of the walled cities when the Romans came to make war. So the Christians fled east across the Jordan River to a city called Pella in an area then called Perea.
     
     edit to add, Eusebius says the Christians were warned in a vision:
     
     "The whole body, however, of the Church at Jerusalem, having been commanded by a divine revelation, given to men of approved piety there before the war, removed from the city, and dwelt at a certain town beyond the Jordan, called Pella."
     
     ===============================================
     Strange signs:
     
     1.http://www.bibleresearch.org/articles/a11pws.htm
     
     "The white stone had the words “For the Lord” written on it, and the black stone had the words “For Azazal” (the sacrificial goat).
     
     "The Babylonian Talmud shows that, for two hundred years before 30 A.D., the first stone to appear in the right hand of the high priest randomly fluctuated each year between the white and black stone. One would expect this type of randomness, because God selected the more perfect goat to be slain for the sins of the people. But, beginning with the Day of Atonement in 30 A.D. (the year of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ), the black stone appeared in the right hand of the high priest for the next 39 years."
     
     2. On the Day of Atonement, a scarlet wool thread was placed on the door of the sanctuary. It was said that this thread turned white when the live goat was set free. But, beginning on the Day of Atonement in 30 A.D., this thread never turned white again. See Yoma 39b, Babylonian Talmud and pages 166, 170 Mishnah, by Danby.
     
     3. Shortly after the beginning of 63 A.D. and while Jerusalem was still a peaceful and thriving city, Jesus the son of Ananus began proclaiming and warning of the coming destruction to Jerusalem. For his continued effort to warn of the impending disaster (which lasted seven years and five months according to Josephus) he was ridiculed and beaten. He would cry, "Woe is Jerusalem!" Prior to being killed by a stone from one of Titus' siege engines, he cried "Woe is Jerusalem, and woe is me!"
     
     4. This next group of signs happened in 66AD during/following the Feast of Unleavened Bread. See 5, which I uncovered later. That's the biggie.
     
     A. During the Feast of Unleavened Bread in 66 A.D., Mar 20-21 at about 3 in the morning, a light as bright as daylight appeared around the altar for half an hour. Although some thought it was a good sign, the scribes understood it to be a precursor to the supernatural events that followed during the Feast:
     
     B. A heifer being led for sacrifice was said to have given birth to a lamb in the midst of the Temple.
     
     C. Around midnight, during the Feast, the huge eastern gate of the inner court of the temple, which was made of brass and normally took twenty men to shut, opened on its own. Josephus says that this was understood by knowledgeable men to mean that the Temple's protection had vanished and that the gate was opened for the benefit of their enemies. These enlightened men publicly declared that this sign foreshadowed the disaster that was coming on them (Wars IV,5,3).
     
     D. On the twenty first of the month of Iyar, just before sunset, chariots and soldiers in armor were seen running about in the clouds around the city.
     
     E. During the night portion of the day of Pentecost in 66 A.D., as the priests were entering the inner court of the Temple, they felt a quaking and heard a great noise and a sound like a great multitude of voices saying, "Let us remove hence".
     
     F. Jewish historical records state that the shekinah glory departed the Temple at that time and remained over the mount of olives for three and a half years, during which time, a voice could sometimes beheard coming from the mount pleading for the Jews to repent. See Midrash Lamentations 2:11.
     
     G. It is said that, just before the Roman's final siege of Jerusalem, that this light which appeared over the Mount of Olives disappeared into the heavens. If indeed the nation of Israel began its covenant relationship with the Creator God on the day of Pentecost at the foot of Mount Sinai,<edit it ended this relationship on the day of Pentecost in 66 AD.
     
     <edit to add>
     
     5. Josephus wrote in the Jewish Wars War 6:289
 (6.5.3.289) Thus there was a star resembling a sword, which stood over the city, and a comet, that continued a whole year.
     <edit to add>
     The comet appears to have been Halley's comet, which had a periodicity of 76 years, but that wasn't known until the 1600s. Many confuse the star and comet. They both appeared Passover 66 AD. Technically, Feast of unleavened bread, 8th of Nisan, Mar 20-21 66 AD.
     
     The comet could not have possibly been visible for a whole year. The star, on the other hand........ "History becomes legend,
     Legend fades into myth
     Myth is forgotten and denied
     Until history repeats itself"
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    Creepy as Hell        12 Aug 2017, 15:10 #360
     Great post!
     
     Regarding the Rev 12 sign.
     
     I have read several people say that this guy Scott Clarke has
     done a lot of research about it.
     I am posting this but have to admit that I have not watched all of it
     because it is long. But, what I watched was good. Give it a watch when
     you have the time. Start about 9 minutes in.
     
     ETA: this vid might not be as good as it could be
     because the guy interviewing him gets hung up on "where
     is the birth canal on virgo" and keeps on and on about it.
     
     

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